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Paul was a PM on a project I was on when we were both at CTP: (URL) have heard his story first hand. Pretty chilling. (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GM1qKx.Do9@lugnet.com... (...) Wow. Makes you think more than twice when someone comes up to you and tries to convince you that 'we're the real terrorists.' Bull. Anyways, that's not (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) unambiguously what this information tells us about our own government? -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One wonders why the State Department seems so dead against such compensation? Anyone know? ROSCO (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Read this: ==+== "If any government sponsors the outlaws and killers of innocents," George Bush announced on the day he began bombing Afghanistan, "they have become outlaws and murderers themselves. And they will take that lonely path at their (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not sure what you're asking, exactly. But THAT won't stop me from pontificating nevertheless. I'm not sure an unambiguous statement can be made based solely on this one personal account (and I personally vouch for Paul's veracity... I have (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is not just the dictators who respect Ramadan - do not forget that. If we bomb through Ramadan we will be dammed as being insensitive. If we choose to stop for Ramadan, we will be dammed for making a cynical token move. Nevertheless, I (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Is that a global (America) "we're"? And who exactly does "they" refer to? It's a bit naive to try & judge "relative goodness" of a nation (or a people) by such a list (even if you could compile such a list). IMO. ROSCO (who thinks Americans (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Rampant cynical speculation would prompt me to guess that the frozen assets in question are currently under the jurisdiction of the State Department, and they've already spent the money on something else. But that's just rampant cynical (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You mean like how Police Departments LOVE civil forfeiture because it gives them Corvettes and powerboats and big piles of cash to play with without having to budget for them (1)? Like that? Nothing speculative about it. 1 - or justify how (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe airline security? ROSCO (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yup, much like that indeed. (...) There is speculation, in that I didn't actually go check and see if the frozen funds are in the State Department sandbox. So I might be ascribing selfish motives where mere beaurocratic inertia is sufficient. (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I doubt it. This particular stonewalling has been going on for longer than the current situation. I really have no idea where the State Department spends its money, but if I were to take a stab at it, I would say they took the windfall of (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) compensation? (...) Oooops, shoulda wrapped that in <RHETORICAL> tags. I doubt airline security even crossed their minds when deciding what to do with Saddam's frozen funds, just figured maybe it'd be something to think about with any of (...) (23 years ago, 2-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Would that be Abdul Haq in his peacemaking persona, or the terrorist one? It is my understanding that Mr Haq was quite an accomplished terrorist. In 1984 he planted a bomb in Kabul airport - it killed 28 people (mostly school-children). A (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:GMBzGB.AG3@lugnet.com... (...) to (...) of (...) It (...) 1984 (...) not (...) lead (...) And why am I not surprised at this post? Oh, because Scott's a troll. Go ahead and make your jabs, but I (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Because you have read the story before? (...) Ah. An insult. (...) So what's the big deal if I fill in a few gaps? (...) I have no idea what your view is on this. (...) Does the truth hurt you so much? What is the big deal? (...) What is your (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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