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| | | (...) Or doesn't work, since we keep having wars. :( Yep, the American media does a great job to stir up hatred as to somehow justify it's shameful foreign policy. Omitting facts about the Holocaust by repeating (and repeating) only the figures on (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | (...) Whoa. Dude. Freaky. The article number was 1227, but the trailing "7" seems to have been chopped off. Let's see if this works: (URL) that, try this... /off-topic/debate/?n=1227 The disclaimer still stands, though. ;-) (...) Hmm. It's difficult (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | (...) Heh heh, I see what you mean. That was a big ol' can of worms! ;^) (...) If you want specifics, I've got doosy for you-- In October of 1990, NBC aired a "special" on Nostrodamis's predictions of world tyrants (by the way, all that Nostradamis (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) I don't remember that special, but--more than just propaganda--it's playing to public expectation. If it had aired two years earlier, no doubt Qaddafi (has anyone ever agreed on an English spelling of his name?) would have been the target. (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | (...) Great point, Dave! And that's exactly my point of the media twisting things to suit a political purpose--hence propaganda. (...) I remember it because it ticked me off. I ended up recording it on video. (...) It's not just the lies, but the (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | (...) Hey, I got another doosy for you, Jeremy! Old skool: Remember when "Amadeus" won a bunch of Oscars back in 1984? We all got familiarized with the "story" of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and how Salieri was jealous and killed him-- 100% pure crap! (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) So did Braveheart, while we're at it, though as a history story it is only slightly more accurate than Mr. Peabody's time travels with Sherman. The only saving grace re: historical value is that neither film claimed to be an accurate (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | (...) WHAT!!! You mean those time travels were made up?! Boy, and to think that I cited those adventures in several college essays! Oops! ;^p (...) Doh! That didn't really happen either?! Wow, I'm batting real low here. Yep, there's a lot of "true" (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | (...) The probelm is we are all to lazy or "busy" to read a book/s about these issues. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | (...) I don't know that "busy" needs to be in quotes, or if it's even a matter of laziness. If I (and countless others) spend 50+ each week working and/or commuting to work, in addition to other immediate responsibilities, I think we can be forgiven (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | (...) But we be forgiven by our families for working >50 hours per week? I read the USA has the longest working week, highest levels of work related stress and the worst divorce rates in the west. (...) 100% correct. In the field I work in everyone (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | (...) That's the US; we don't do anything half-way! If we're going to have a work week, we're going to have the *longest* work week. Ditto stress level and divorce rates! Go team! (...) In my work toward an English degree I was required to buy three (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) And Sagan never said "Billions and billions." 8^) Dave! (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Ya, and Yogi Berra nevers said "Deja Vu all over again", right??? <grin> ++Lar (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | (...) I'm not saying that big lies don't happen. I'm not defending the media, either. Um, I'm not sure what I'm saying. :-, Shortly after seeing Amadeus, I was made aware of the Salieri conspiracy. The movie was mean, but so what? As a work of (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Richard Marchetti
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| | | | | (...) Okay... I just thought I'd point out that I wasn't trying to negatively criticize anyone specifically for the manner in which they choose to remember the Holocaust. To that extent, I think that I am with Shiri inasmuch as personal accounts (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | (...) Sorry, I wasn't trying to pick a fight, either. I certainly didn't receive your words as negative criticism towards myself -- I definitely need to try to express that better in the future. FWIW, I liked the movie. The first time I watched it (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) <just a little tummy tuck> (...) Goodness I missed you, so glad you're back!!! ++Lar (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | (...) Comfort food time! ;^) (...) Well, the Pushkin playlet started the snowball (bad, bad Mister Pushkin). (...) "Mo' money, mo' money, mo' money..." (...) Hmmm, I can dig that. (...) Exactly, but how many folks really do that? We've reduced (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | (...) Ooh! Thank you Dan! I could go for some good salsa about now. (...) And who are you to turn the heart of the average American? To introduce some new compassion into even a small fraction of your peers...it's a pretty tall order. I hate to (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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