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  California Power "Deregulation"
 
The media in the US are touting the situation in CA as a "failure of deregulation". (URL) is it really? Let's review: Utilities used to produce their own power. But building plants to keep up with demand got hard for them. So some thought to open (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) Well I'm not sure I agree. I bought my revolver (and the hollowpoint bullets I keep in the speed loader) based on my evaluation of how much bang for the buck I got. Those hollowpoints will stop a person dead in his tracks. I would have shot (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) True, but it doesn't matter. Guns are not designed to kill people. That's just reactionary liberal disarmament garbage. Guns are designed to sell. Chris (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) A small but probably non-zero number. So what? Guns kill a few innocents, so do TVs. Worse yet, TVs sap the intellect and ambition from millions every day. In fact, I have read of correlational studies suggesting that TV exposure correlates to (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) _We_ do mind registering them! At least those of us who love liberty do. Further, there are at least several activities for which guns are much more useful than cars. Chris (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
I've held out of this one but must reiterate these points. (...) There are two main threads when arguing in favor of gun ownership. Tim is going down one thread: that there are legitimate reasons for owning guns besides the one for which they are (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) The valid justification is this: The government eventually wants a completely disarmed populace. If they tried to pass laws that just forbid all guns in Canada, they would be strung up in the streets. So they just want to record where all guns (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Family values?
 
(...) I've been waiting to see the new thread. Did I need to respond to get it? If so, then shoot. (Bad choice of words given the other thread :-) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Family values?
 
(...) I think that something we've been forgetting is that the "deadbeat" might very well be the victim too. There is no knowing that he knows there is a child in the world of his genetic lineage. Just a point, Chris (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) What a device is _primarily_ designed to do and what one does with it, in my mind, are two very different things. The fact of the matter is it doesn't matter if a pencil is designed to write on paper with, you _could_ buy it for the express (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) To my mind the difference is that pens, pencils, screwdrivers, baseball bats etc have a primary purpose which does not involve maiming or death. I would trust a six year old with a pencil. If you want to own a machine that is explicitly (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Family values?
 
(...) More specifically, why should the child be given greater consideration than a more-or-less arbitrarily chosen man? Remember--in this thought experiment we're not discussing a man who has agreed knowingly to act as the father-figure for the (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) <opinion> So I guess that means you want to register bows, arrows, slingshots, BB guns, pens, pencils, screwdrivers, baseball bats, golf clubs, mixing spoons, sticks, branches, etc, etc, etc... After all, these are all dangerous too - you can (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) Thanks. I will argue the point of owning guns for protection no further. I personally don't agree with some of the opinions expressed in the www.handguncontrol.com article, but I can't argue with statistics - because one can always argue the (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) Ideally everyone would be happy - however that would mean that there IS no minority because if both were represented all of our interests would be the. Since that isn't the case a democratic government is in place to represent the majority - (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Family values?
 
(...) Why? Chris (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Family values?
 
(...) to (...) faithfullness, (...) It sounds like you are saying that the crux of the moral status of marriage comes from: fidelity, duty, and commitment. How does fidelity work in a culture which accepts polygamous marriage as the norm? Is the (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Family values?
 
(...) Bill doesn't give supportable or reasonable reasons. He said it's wrong "Because it causes all manner of hurt and confusion on so many levels...[and] because innocent people get hurt." And the entirety of the rest of my note addressed exactly (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Family values?
 
(...) I certainly don't believe that infidelity should be rewarded. The conflict arises because while people SHOULD act responsibly, unfortunately that doesn't always happen. And if we are dealing with consequences of an act of irresponsibility that (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) No problem. These two: (URL) I found here: (URL) (...) That's too bad. (...) But what really would be the price. My life is not empty without a gun. I do not live in fear. (...) It is weak. (...) The two things are related. (...) I agree. (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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