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(...) If I may interject, because you two have crystallized the crux of the matter here for me. In a perfect world, Libertopia is, IMO, the best form of government you could have. Problem is, you need to have the perfect world *first*. People need (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think it is the stuff you get when you try to make Lefsa but you don't do it right. /Eric McC/ (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Standing by your principals is commendable. If you concur with those principals, then you absolutely should vote for him. (...) Yes - the three "old-line" parties are various versions of the same thing. (...) Have you actually READ the (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: LP POINT 3.2
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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:G4qvDE.4D6@lugnet.com... (...) some (...) plan. (...) You know...we lose 90% of our communication online. Its an easy mistake. Well, you now see where I stand. Know that I don't hate you - don't (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<text topped> <I'm saying that (...) <text tailed> If only you knew me. I'm far too disorganised to have any sort of master plan. I'm sorry if I have offended your sensibilities... I really am. Scott A (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:G4qp1v.87r@lugnet.com... (...) I don't think its that simple, but suit yourself :-) BTW - I'll assume that the 'you' there is a typo, where 'he' should have been there. (...) in (...) Second I (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Freedoms in Libertopia? (was Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne)
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(...) Well, here's my point. I am all for personal freedom, but even in Libertopia we need to draw some lines. Hey, use all the drugs you want; it's your life to ruin. As long as you do it with the understanding that there won't be any free gov (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: LP POINT 1
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<SNIPPED> (...) You may view this as a snipe, but it is more of a BTW. Co-chair the CATA Walfare Privatization research the the USA is Jose Pinera. Pinera was a former minister of labor and welfare in Chile (nice dish), - managed the privatization (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Read : (URL) key phrase: "Show me what the support for LP is. Show me it is a representative cross section of the US public." I then clairified: (URL) key phrase: "I'm interested in breadth - not depth. Show me that all socio-economic groups (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Snip it all except the quote If you'd like to define the meaning of *this* (...) as that the LP (not small l libertarianisn) doesn't have deep, broad, election winning support in the US, then I would agree. However that's rather a smaller point than (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What is Gafla anyway... it is not in my dictionary. (...) Which came 1st, the egg or the chicken? One way to view Libertarianism, is that it is a good idea taken to its illogical extreme. Saying the world is moving towards libertainaism is, in (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<tim's text zapped> Tim, Larry could have ended this days ago if you had just answered my points. He asked me to state them here, look down to "Sorry. Stipulate..": (URL) did stipulate (URL) failed to answer me, instead he cherry picked a point made (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes(heavily snipped): (...) **snip** (...) Sorry, Lar, but I think you've broken the duly established "gafla" limit for a single post. 8^) (...) Would that be sufficient for the LP? To have a (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G4qF2F.EyC@lugnet.com... (...) to (...) should (...) Lar- I'm pretty much in agreement with what you said in your post. And sometimes I dunno why I keep skimming o-t.debate. :o) So (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sqirmity squirm. (...) "Directions"? ROTFL. (...) Sqirmity squirm. (...) I think it is. I welcome it. It is gratifying to speak with individuals who are interested in addressing the points... rather than the crowd. "The man who follows the (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nope. Read it again. His assertion is that as America is an egalitarian society, it rejected the LP. Basically his point is that egalitarianism is at odds with the LP. As you well know, the point I raised referred only to the range of support (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What I actually said was this: (from) (URL)Tell you what though, Scott. Pick one point, one thought, one item that (...) and again: (from) (URL)I'll repeat my offer though. If Scott picks one point or small topic and (...) Note the use (in (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Repeating the original cite and with much snippage of multiple quotes, irrelevancy, signatures, etc (the interested reader knows how to follow references upwards, or should), as always: (...) I'll repeat my analysis of this theme (that (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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(...) In a Libertopia, just as much as you. (...) They operate in very desperate circumstances. Supply and demand in an unregulated labour market means that they must work at the "market rate" and at the market conditions - just like in Libertopia. (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Altruistic Charity" In a strong a economy, we would expect to have higher disposable income. We may choose to use that to better the circumstances of others, or we may choose to go to "Wally World" - that is a personal choice. If the (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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