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I'm sounding off my opinion just as Larry has the right to do. Your point by point critisism is as bad as everything you're accusing me of. (...) There's nothing about censorship in my response. When Larry put his message up I passed it off as an (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Distaste for Jar-Jar (was: The Censors have won.)
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(...) Here's an example (remember this one?) in which the creator (IMO) found a far more effective way to express his feelings about Jar Jar. I thought this was hilarious and the best use for Jar Jar heads I've ever seen. (URL) in the third frame. (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Something not right about Captain Ahnee and the Dipwads?
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(...) I should probably clarify that, so that it doesn't get mistaken for saying something it's not. What I mean when I say "I hate Jar-Jar" or "I hate Timmy" or "I hate Barney the Dinosaur" or "I hate Microsoft" is: "I'd like to see as little as (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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| | Re: Distaste for Jar-Jar (was: The Censors have won.)
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(...) Ya, "humour-impaired" isn't an accurate phrase to use in this context -- it's too loaded. See last paragraph here: (URL) I'll even admit that when I read the story, I laughed at Jar-Jar's beating (...) But it's not Jar-Jar being beaten -- (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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| | Re: Something not right about Captain Ahnee and the Dipwads?
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(...) What I mean by this is that I believe the following is true: If you take a random cross-section of the population and ask them to rate on a scale of 0 to 10 how strongly they feel they were a "Star Wars fan" in 1998 (prior to the release of (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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(...) I'm a little disapointed in that coment. I don't think it's being humor impaired to question the value of something which shows intolerance. I'll even admit that when I read the story, I laughed at Jar-Jar's beating (though not nearly so much (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: The artist hasn't the courage of his convictions? (was Re: The Censors have won.
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(...) I guess I would sort of agree with Todd, in that when one makes a public statement about how they dislike something, that they hope it will have a an effect. However, this does NOT consitute censorship. To me, this is the way change should be (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Distaste for Jar-Jar (was: The Censors have won.)
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With the Ewoks, Leia was their advocate--she begged you to consider their good qualities. Qui-gon Jinn never had a connection with the little Gungan twerp. Plus, you could negotiate with an Ewok and they were rather intelligent. There is nothing (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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I'll agree there. I'd much rather have Elmo on than Barney. Heck, 3 years ago I'd be in 100% agreement with you. It's funny that me, my wife and my sister-in-law and her husband as well as many more of our DINK friends were all anti-Barney and swore (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Something not right about Captain Ahnee and the Dipwads?
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(...) My take on it is this: When SW fans rip on Jar-Jar, it's their way of letting off steam -- venting -- and really, that's about all there is to it (to the motivation behind it). Hardcore SW fans (no, I haven't done a scientific survey) feel (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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Sorry should have been clipped to ot.debate "Rob Doucette" <rob.doucette@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:G3Ios1.G43@lugnet.com... (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:G3IM77.9yF@lugnet.com... (...) explain (...) The Sesame Street magazine had an article on the child psych design of Elmo's world. Each aspect of the 15 minute segment has a purpose. Adult (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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| | Re: Something not right about Captain Ahnee and the Dipwads?
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(...) JJ is a portrayal of a fictional sentient being. One might assume from your statements of vilification that you would feel that way about real people who act like JJ. Now, I'm sure (or hope) you'll say that you don't support that people who (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: The artist hasn't the courage of his convictions? (was Re: The Censors have won.
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(...) 1/2 disagree. By stating publicly that you didn't like it and weren't going to let your kids look at it, you *are* asking for change. (Not a change in what has already occurred, but a change in the future.) Otherwise, why bother to say (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Distaste for Jar-Jar (was: The Censors have won.)
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(...) How could you tell? ;-) (...) Back in the mid-90's when Barney-bashing was at its height, I remember hearing about a lot of adults *with* small children who were going crazy from all the Barneymania (uh, the adults, that is...not the kids :-). (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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| | Re: Thanks a lot Pieniazek! (was Re: Something not right...)
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(...) The Sistine Chapel is a great piece of work. Dan's comic was a cute piece of work. (...) Are you disputing that Dan should have the right to alter his work? Or are you disputing that Larry should have the right to his opinion? (...) Us who? In (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | The artist hasn't the courage of his convictions? (was Re: The Censors have won.
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(...) My goodness that *does* miss the point. I don't know whether anyone else who was engaged in honest dialog about whether violence against fantasy characters was useful/appropriate/good fun or not was asking for change, but *I* never asked for (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Distaste for Jar-Jar (was: The Censors have won.)
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Words obviously spoken by a man without small kids. Barney (and Elmo) is an hour of uninterrupted time in which you can actually get something done. With Elmo or Barney gracing the screen I can supervise with one eye and be doing something else. (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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(...) Maybe, rather than taking the "offensive" stuff out altogether, something like this could accompany future comic strips right at the beginning, as part of a disclaimer explaining that it is SATIRE against the offensive marketing engine that (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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| | Thanks a lot Pieniazek! (was Re: Something not right...)
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Now Dan Jassim has chosen to omit the scenes from a great piece of work because you and your cohorts found it offensive. Its great that conservatives like you can suck the fun out everything for us. Do me a favor and avoid www.3-stooges.com lest you (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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