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(...) In addition to religions, some of the more fascinating memes (IMHO) include Internet hoaxes or urban legends -- for example the so-called "Good Times Virus" hoax or the so-called "Mrs. Fields' Cookies Rcecipe" messages. It's fascinating how (...) (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Neil Gaiman was (Does God have a monopoly on gods?)
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You said Pratchett came too late to write for the Pythons... well, Terry Gilliam is doing the movie of _Good Omens_. I can't wait (and I haven't even read the book! I guess I can wait) (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Mormon bashing again
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(...) The mosaic law was still in force until His resurrection. (...) Fulfilled in the sense that he retired them. He fulfilled them because they were given to show sin and the need of an innocent sacrifice. Since animals could not propitiate a Holy (...) (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: memes (Was: Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?)
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(...) It might have been an essay, but it was a good one :) Thanks for this - I understand your previous message now! The meme-meme is an easy one to grasp but hard to master. I can't say I've mastered it yet, but I do find it interesting :) Richard (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Do the Ten Commandments tolerate Atheism? (was: Re: Mormon bashing again)
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(...) Actually, what's more puzzling to me is that the Ten Commandments don't say anything about passing on the information, unless that's implied by an external document. After all, we are all born atheists, and we can only accept religion as Truth (...) (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Mormon bashing again
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(...) Oh! I just realized, I have another question about the deep meaning of this the First Commandment. OK, is it assumed or implied here that God is commanding us to believe that he exists and to have Him as our god? Or is he simply saying (this (...) (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
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(...) You're forgetting Abraham and Noah, they were long before this pharaoh and long before formal judaism. The hadn't taken up the views of that heretic, they obeyed the active voice of the God of their fathers. Melchizedek (Gen 14) is called the (...) (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Which of the Ten Commandments are Libertarian? (was: Re: Mormon bashing again)
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(...) don't know anything about Libertarianism, but why do people keep saying the Ten Commandments were written by Christians? According to the Bible (the Old testament), it was handed to Moses on mount Sinai... Wasn't this mention before? :) Dan (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Which of the Ten Commandments are Libertarian? (was: Re: Mormon bashing again)
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(...) Whoops, I didn't literally mean Christian there. IIRC, the Ten Commandments predate Christianity by thousands of years. --Todd (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Which of the Ten Commandments are Libertarian? (was: Re: Mormon bashing again)
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(...) Hmm, hmm. A tangent... If the Ten Commandments had been written by a Libertarian instead of a Christian, I wonder how different they would look? Would there still be 10? Or only 5? Or would there be 15? Commandments 1, 2, 3, 4, and 7 strike me (...) (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?)
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(...) I think the strategy is also to announce the desirable features of Messiah 2.0 and then not actually ship it. When others announce their version of Messiah, threaten them. Of course, a significant portion of the user base hasn't even (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Colleen McCullough, who has read thousands of classical sources, writes invocations in her historical fiction that start, "Jupiter Optimus Maximus, of whatever name you prefer, of whichever sex you prefer..." I've not yet encountered this in (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would suggest that its a conceit of your ego that these "things" exist. Love is probably just your nervous system "grooving" with someone else's nervous system. There are lots of popular "scientific" views now that "love" is largely a (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: memes (Was: Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?)
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(...) Ya, that's what I meant earlier when I mentioned that religions were memes. I'm always curious how religions manage to propagate themselves. Thus, it doesn't seem surprising to me that a religion with a first commandment in which its deity (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Mormon bashing again
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I shouldn't talk for Bill, but I think I know what he means... Law v Grace You are saved by grace according to the New Testament. But you show your love of God by following his commandments (i.e. starting with all the Mosaic laws and up to and (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) BTW, Judaism is NOT the first monotheistic faith. The Egyptian Pharoah Akhenaten, A.K.A. The Heretic King, is probably the first monotheist in history -- believing in a single solar diety -- The Aten. When the same idea was taken up by Moses (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: memes (Was: Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?)
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(...) Right off, I'm not able to recall much from reading Dawkins (it was half my lifetime ago.) So anything I take issue with doesn't refer to his book. I'd probably benefit from reading it now! (But I've got a pile of new Stephen Jay Gould and (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
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(...) Say, this bring up an interesting point (for me, anyway). I'm curious about something... Over my lifetime, I've heard God referred to as He millions of times, and in more recent years, occasionally I've heard Him referred to as She, but I (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Eastern vs. Western religions (was: Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?)
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(...) Well, from what I know of Eastern religions, they've always made more sense to me than Western religions. (I'm thinking Zen Buddhism vs. Christianity in particular here.) (...) IMHO, holding oneself accountable to a deity is to ignore the one (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
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(...) I honestly know little to nothing about eastern religions. But I figure, if there's no god to be accountible to, it doesn't matter if you believe in it or not. It might be a nice little "this is good, this is bad" system that might have it's (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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