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Re: Mormon bashing again
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Date: 
Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:12:49 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes:
1 - Thou shalt have no other God's before me.

Oh!  I just realized, I have another question about the deep meaning of
this the First Commandment.

OK, is it assumed or implied here that God is commanding us to believe that
he exists and to have Him as our god?  Or is he simply saying (this would be
the literal or mathematical interpretation) that, IF one worships a deity,
He must be THAT deity?

In other words, is He saying,

(a) "I exist, and I presume that you believe that I exist; however, I command
    you to worship Me and Me only, even if you believe that other deities may
    exist," or

(b) "I exist, and I command you to believe that I and I only exist, and I
    command you to worship Me and Me only," or

(c) "I don't necessarily exist, but I happen to believe that I do, and if you
    also happento believe that deities exist, then I command you to believe
    that I do exist and to worship Me and Me only, for if I cannot be your
    one and only god, then let no god be your god."

?

What I'm getting at is this:  I don't see anything in the Ten Commandments
which commands people not to be athiests.  Is this correct?  Or does the
First Commandment contain the implied statement of:  "You must not not believe
that I exist."  ?

--Todd



Message has 2 Replies:
  Do the Ten Commandments tolerate Atheism? (was: Re: Mormon bashing again)
 
(...) Actually, what's more puzzling to me is that the Ten Commandments don't say anything about passing on the information, unless that's implied by an external document. After all, we are all born atheists, and we can only accept religion as Truth (...) (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Mormon bashing again
 
(...) a) is pretty close. IMHO he's saying not to mix His service with the service of others. It assumes that the person who cares enough to find out what He expects is desirous to follow Him and should not divide their attention by seeking Him and (...) (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Mormon bashing again
 
Bill Farkas wrote in message ... (...) in (...) similar (...) endorsing or (...) that (...) not (...) merely (...) which is (...) Ah, but the Ten Commandments are MORE than an example of the basic principles, here they are for reference: 1 - Thou (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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