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Re: Mormon bashing again
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Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:50:33 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes:
> > 1 - Thou shalt have no other God's before me.
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> Oh! I just realized, I have another question about the deep meaning of
> this the First Commandment.
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> OK, is it assumed or implied here that God is commanding us to believe that
> he exists and to have Him as our god? Or is he simply saying (this would be
> the literal or mathematical interpretation) that, IF one worships a deity,
> He must be THAT deity?
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> In other words, is He saying,
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> (a) "I exist, and I presume that you believe that I exist; however, I command
> you to worship Me and Me only, even if you believe that other deities may
> exist," or
a) is pretty close. IMHO he's saying not to mix His service with the service of
others. It assumes that the person who cares enough to find out what He expects
is desirous to follow Him and should not divide their attention by seeking Him
and another. He is prepared to give you His full attention if you give yours.
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> (b) "I exist, and I command you to believe that I and I only exist, and I
> command you to worship Me and Me only," or
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> (c) "I don't necessarily exist, but I happen to believe that I do, and if you
> also happento believe that deities exist, then I command you to believe
> that I do exist and to worship Me and Me only, for if I cannot be your
> one and only god, then let no god be your god."
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> ?
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> What I'm getting at is this: I don't see anything in the Ten Commandments
> which commands people not to be athiests. Is this correct? Or does the
> First Commandment contain the implied statement of: "You must not not believe
> that I exist." ?
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> --Todd
If people don't want to believe that's fine with Him, the commandments were
only for those who sought Him because they believed him to be the only true
God. Romans chapters 1, 2 says those who don't believe will be judged by how
they judged others - in other words, if someone did something to you and you
thought it was wrong but went on to do it to others, that is the measure you
will be judged by. We all have God's principles written in our hearts and know
right and wrong whether we admit it or not - no matter how hard we twist
reality to fit what suits us. Romans 2 says we are always trying to accuse or
excuse one another - unbelievers will be judged by their own hypocrisy.
Bill
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| Waitasec.. (...) Are you sure about this? Most christians assert I am doomed to enternal damnation because I am aware of christanity but choose not to believe. They say that no matter how righteous my life is, no matter that I never lie, cheat, or (...) (24 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Oh! I just realized, I have another question about the deep meaning of this the First Commandment. OK, is it assumed or implied here that God is commanding us to believe that he exists and to have Him as our god? Or is he simply saying (this (...) (24 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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