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  Re: Quiet in here
 
Bill, (...) Bill, I was just throwing a mild jest at Selçuk, I am a pessimist anyway, but I have run into so many people that have this attitude, it is hard sometimes, especially when you dabble in politics as much as I do. (...) I agree! : ) I have (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Quiet in here
 
(...) In response to both of you I would say that the pessimism should not be expected and that the optimism is not foolish. Our "system" is very unique here. The "system" is great, the current bunch who occupy it may not be. Yet I still have faith (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Quiet in here
 
(...) Well, most Americans believe that as well, but some of us have foolish optimism every now and then! : ) Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) Page -> (URL) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Quiet in here
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> Being a third worlder, I follow this "Foofoo is better than Blahblah" kind of debates between you, USians, that consider politicians with a kind of amaze..:-) Here in our country things are very clear and (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Quiet in here
 
(...) I would say Al is pandering so much as lying. Al was one of my senators. He's not a Tennessean, though. I'm more of a Tennessean than he is, and I wasn't even born here. (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Quiet in here
 
(...) Oh, I almost forgot...You honestly don't think Al Gump is pandering?! IMO, he is pandering more than anyone. Now, he's playing the race card, again. That's not pandering?! How 'bout a guy, who in local politics was pro-life and fervently so; (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Quiet in here
 
(...) radical (...) No more than you meant that anyone religious is a right wing extremist. The problem in this matter is that only the outrageous get the attention and taint the entire issue. (...) Morality tanscends the state. It's not just a (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Quiet in here
 
(...) Well, speaking as a veteran, I'd rather have someone in office who knows firsthand what the real consequences of armchair warfare are for real soliders. I'd value the leadership that a retired general could bring to the office but I'd also (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Noise Level
 
Larry, (...) Hmm.... I am not a huge fan of the entire political process, I am not a huge fan of anything in politics, really. I pick my sides and the people I support, I never even got involved really until I started seeing how screwed up things (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Noise Level
 
(...) Well that's true. It seems we've dredged up the same old arguments. I'd rather that the thread i kicked off focus on the mechanics of the campaign rather than ideologies but one can't control one's thread. I used to get Campaigns and (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Noise Level
 
Larry, (...) Why? Sometimes, it just seems so pointless, futile, and just makes me upset. I prefer talking about LEGO rather than politics sometimes. It calms the nerves when there aren't so many debates for me, at least. Scott S. (25 years ago, 24-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Noise Level
 
Why? (...) Larry Pieniazek - lpieniazek@mercator.com - (URL) Mercator, the e-business transformation company fund Lugnet(tm): (URL) ref: lar, 1/2 $$ to lugnet. Note: this is a family forum! (25 years ago, 24-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Quiet in here
 
There's a Mugwump party? What's their platform? :-) Yahoo came up dry when I searched on Mugwump... (...) (25 years ago, 24-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Quiet in here
 
(...) In California, you remain a member of your party until you re-register. I don't know if it varies from state to state, it probably can, but I don't know if it actually does. California is a winner-take-all state: you win by one vote, you get (...) (25 years ago, 24-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Quiet in here
 
(...) up (...) the (...) the (...) vote (...) I've never registered under a party, btw--is that registration permanent (unless voluntarily changed), or does it have to be reinstated each election term? Or does that vary from state to state? (I know (...) (25 years ago, 24-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Quiet in here
 
(...) Yes and no. We can vote for any candidate for any party, but only votes from party members count towards the delegates. Anyone who wants to have their vote for McCain (or Bush) actually mean something had better register as a Republican. Bruce (...) (25 years ago, 24-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Noise Level
 
(...) Bah, I liked it quiet for once, actually. Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) Page -> (URL) (25 years ago, 24-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Noise Level
 
Ah, much better. Carry on until November. Steve (25 years ago, 24-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Quiet in here
 
(...) If I remember correctly, the California primaries are simultaneous -- every candidate for every party is run on the same ballot. So potential sabateours (sp?) have to choose between knocking down the opposing party, and building up their own (...) (25 years ago, 24-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: No Longer Quite So Quiet in here
 
(...) Really? They must have misreported it here (not surprising, considering how confused NJ media are). But is Reed working for the Bush campaign? I recall seeing that mention in the Times. I stand corrected. best Lindsay (25 years ago, 24-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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