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(...) ...and speaking of fearing the left, when I visited a friend at his dorm at UC Berekeley, the bathrooms on his floor where unisex. I tell you, it ruins romance to have a girl into the stall next to you and...well, there is a point where too (...) (19 years ago, 14-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This is why I fear the right - they will claim anything that offends their sensiblities is the "left", and it's all usually a smokescreen for saying, "I hate anything that is different from me." Blowing up bad taste into a cultural litmus test (...) (19 years ago, 14-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This may be an unintentional misstatement of the facts. My impression is that an all-out ban on stem-cell research would receive massive support from the Right, but the Right realizes that it's a game of inches. First, ban government funding (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Frank has already given a (URL) discussion> of this objection, so I'll defer to him on this point. If the constraints of cost and space were somehow eliminated, would you object to the mandatory inclusion of a gender-neutral bathroom facility (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not to steer it in a totally different direction, but I still just don't get that. It's not the act redefining that you object to (or, it SHOULDN'T be). Redefining "who's allowed to vote" or "which race can use this bathroom" I'll hope you'll (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) There you go, making bad impressions again. (...) Mine, too, to be honest. But my point was that notions of fashion-based gender differences have been mutable for at least centuries, and I intended the fops of old as examples of this. (...) (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I am looking at this as a vision for the future that some influential people have, and I don't like it. (...) There doesn't have to be. (...) Hmm. I don't know. The vision of "hybrid-man" sounds narcissistic and selfish-- not generally known (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Nothing. It's not a complicated point at all... we're governed by liars (Clinton "didn't inhale" and Bush "never did it"... right!... I beleive that!), surrounded by liars, are liars ourselves, and it's due to this stupid prohibition, just (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) If you lie about marijuana use, yeah, you are a liar. What's complicated about that? The libertarian in me says legalize marijuana, prostitution, drugs etc, but then I have to look at what kind of society would be the result. From where I'm (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It's all how you look at it. The Right is against the Left redefining marriage. (...) Mainly the Right is against government funding for such research. Same with abortion. But yes, there is a moral component to it as well. (...) Prostitution, (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What if I took 2 polls and asking men and then women whether or not they'd like to see unisex restrooms-- how do you suppose the results would differ? You as a male may think it's pointless, but I seriously doubt that women would feel the same (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, you are correct Sir! Yesss! (my best imitation of Phil Hartman doing Ed McMahon:-) (...) Like the people who are wearing them are in a MP skit-- too silly for my taste. (...) I only wanted to see an example to which we could perhaps make (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Time flies;-) Let's say 45 years. (...) That's one way to look at it. Another way is that it saved 10,000s of lives as well. (...) Yes, but that was in an effort to defend our country. Yeah, war is hell-- so don't start one (speaking to (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Then you obviously give more credence to the influence a few fashion designers have than I do. (...) But what kind of father? What kind of husband? As much as you'd like to think otherwise, there's no one single blueprint for fulfilling either (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ah, fair enough. I read a kind of "what happened to you staying out of OTD and staying there" tone which apparently wasn't intended. Bad read. Actually, I enjoy the stimulating exchange of ideas here, but back then, the subject matter got too (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) for you, John: " Those who fret about morality in America, take note: Raich v. Gonzales codifies our status as a Nation of Liars." (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) via Reason) COMMENTARY June 7 2005 What Were Those Justices Smoking? - The medical marijuana ruling is legally and morally flawed. By Nick Gillespie, Nick Gillespie is editor in chief of Reason magazine. The most important quote, IMHO: - start (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, not necessarily you per se, but it's one of those things that the Right is generally against. Gay marriage being the big ticket item at the moment. Things like that, restrictions on stem cell research, and even things like gambling & (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Please, don't remind me. Steve Bliss, feeling a little old (or maybe the recent string of long work days is wearing me down) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm in the "I'm not sure we need to separate mens and womens restrooms" camp also. There is a minor point about the non-privacy of urinals, but then we could either put a urinal in each stall, or we could put the urinals in their own room, or (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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