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  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) D'oh! Wasn't paying attention--was thinking TUC, but somehow TVH was stuck in my mind... Why was that? There be whales here??? Maybe it was more of the computer asking Spock, "How do you feel?" :) Dave K (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) Correct! The line came from the daughter of the Klingon Chancellor in resonse to Chekov's ham-handed attempt at diplomacy. Dave! (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) That's actually from ST6: The Undiscovered Country, which I just recently caught on TV. I can't remember which scene specifically it's from, but I think it was the dinner shared by the Enterprise crew and the Klingons. (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) Eh, I thought I'd add a particular flavour to my otherwise colourless rant. If you want me to do you a favour by dropping the u's out of color, I'll do so. (...) We can set up scientific experiments, observe, and hypothesize, and come up with (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  From the "too much information" department
 
Bit of a puff piece, really: (URL) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Guardian Sends out Mixed Messages?
 
Which is it: (URL) or (URL) ??? (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Clark County, Ohio
 
(...) Judging by the mob which followed him on his last visit and the way he is almost universally derided here: not very many. (...) That's actually an argument against all political campagning. When I posted the message I was actually more (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ??
 
(...) I tried reading one of the Alvin Maker series a while back, and I just could not get into it at all. Aside from that, the only OSC books I've ever touched were in the Ender series. I wouldn't want to say that he's a good sci-fi author in (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) Whoops, forgot to complete that thought. ...but it didn't really strike me as a great example of his work. The ending kinda rolls out in a largely predictable manner. I'd say the most compelling reason to read it is the unusual array of (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ??
 
(...) My son is reading Ender's Game as I type this (page 200). I started after him and zoomed by him to page 273 (just put it down so he could go read it - he has to have it read for school by Sunday). I'd agree with your analysis. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) He's also written/co-written a couple of novels. The only one I've read to date was Neverwhere (also a TV miniseries in the UK), but. (...) He also drove a lot of adults away from reading the Star Wars novels, largely as a result of the two (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) Hmm, C.S. Friedman was born in '57, so she's out. But don't let that stop you from reading her work. (...) And J. Gregory Keyes (now going by Greg Keyes), while an excellent fantasy author, has only written sci-fi for SW:NJO and B5 thus far. (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) Neal Stephenson (Snow Crash, The Diamond Age. Both in my top 20) almost meets your requirement (b. October 31, 1959) Greg Egan (b. 1961) seem to be fairly well respected (won a Hugo and John W. Campbell Memorial Award). I haven't read anything (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) ***snip*** (...) Nice! I haven't heard that joke in quite a while, and it always gives me a giggle. Dave! (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) First of all, we Merkans don't take kindly to that Frenchy "u" in color. And we don't want no horse doovers, neither. Secondly, I can't see air, but I can discern the effect of air upon objects. Therefore I am able to draw conclusions about (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ??
 
(...) 1942: (URL) the wikipedia!) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ??
 
(...) Hmm, I'll have to check this out sometime. I just checked out my favorite SF author, CJ Cherryh, and I didn't find a birth date, but she received some kind of honors in 1960 and a degree in 1964 so clearly she was born before 1960. Another (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Clark County, Ohio
 
(...) I think the question is more accurately stated "how many Guardian readers would go for Bush?"... and I think we have our answer, (3) thanks to the cite provided by Dave! It would really be a shame if this clueless stunt (by a paper I have (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ??
 
(...) Born in 1951, I think.(1) (...) Some people (2) really like him. (3) Some people find him a bit too preachy. ++Lar 1 - so does (URL) - me for instance. I usually have a preachyness detector but his mormonness doesn't come through strongly (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) My response to that has been(1), and continues to be, "so what?". If I can't taste it, and it can't taste me, what does it matter? I'm happy without. If you want to believe in pink elephants that's fine with me. Further, if the Elephantians (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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