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(...) Heh! I see your wishful thinking! However, 1 Timothy 3:2 says: "Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife,..." and 1 Timothy 3:12 says: "A deacon must be the husband of but one wife..." (both NIV). This probably (...) (20 years ago, 14-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Though the point raised by both Scott and Chris suggests he had a much less altruistic reason for resigning, another related possibility for someone in this situation would be the ability to largely retreat from the public eye afterwards. I (...) (20 years ago, 13-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I only heard about this this morning, but it's big news here at work (in sunny Pennington, NJ). The consensus opinion of my literate coworkers seems to be that he's attempting to resign under the dark cloud of his homosexual extra-marital (...) (20 years ago, 13-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) used tax-payers money I expect he'll some questions on answer. Scott A (20 years ago, 13-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) condemnors from now until he's out of office, and the resources he'd have to devote to defending against that nonsense would detract from his ability to maintain his office. Tangentially, one might wonder how the past few years might have been (...) (20 years ago, 13-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It was used a lot in a 70's UK sit-com called "(URL) Citizen Smith>". Scott A (20 years ago, 13-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I think I am missing something here. He's gay. So what? Why resign? What does his preference in partners have to do with his ability to govern? (URL) (20 years ago, 13-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 'first against the wall when the revolution comes' is fairly self explanatory - I doubt it would be possible to nail it to a specific source. That said, Douglas Adams used it in 1978 in his Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (in reference to the (...) (20 years ago, 13-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Actually, you do not digress here, Lar. The original point with which I started this thread was that o-t.d had become a quagmire where meaninful debate gets dragged down into the muck by the same old circular logic. The fact that this has (...) (20 years ago, 12-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah me too. Well I spose all the IMPORTANT stuff is already packed. And I do still have 16 hours till the plane leaves.... (20 years ago, 12-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not sure you wanted to juxtapose ignoring your own advice with hurling the word "stupid". :-) -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 12-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Where the heck did that phrase (or paraphrase) originate? The first place I remember hearing it is in a Sugarcubes song, but I'm sure it predates that tune. Dave! (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Is that what a right is? If you're engaged in a behavior only at the whim of your government, isn't it a privilege? Chris (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Bear in mind Mike, that "conservatives" or Republicans aren't particularly more friendly to your second amendment rights than those nasty liberals. The truth is, it is in the interest of anyone who wants to control you to disarm you. (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) There isn't exactly an accepted market value. I'm thinking about this. (...) My first reaction is yes, yes, no. But maybe it really does need to be no, yes, no or it falls apart due to a breach in internal consistency. (...) I think people do (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But, standing around flailing with a shovel _is_ useful, otherwise he wouldn't want it done. And in any case, it takes just as much time out of that person's life to perform those diggerly theatrics as it takes for a real excavator to dig for (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, The Press (aka The Fourth Estate.) But I admit that it sounded like I'm a graduate of (URL) this> fine institution! Dave! (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Uh... four branches of government? -Mike Petrucelli (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I agree with you completely on this. In fact so does the NRA, laws should punish criminals not infringe upon the rights of law-abiding citizens. (...) Fair enough. -Mike Petrucelli (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Okay, that makes me feel better. I was concerned that you were lapsing into the unproductive view that "they're all crazy all the time." Some of the Liberals are crazy all of the time, and all of the Liberals are crazy some of the time, but (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, here's the thing-- I am becoming increasingly swayed to 'the dark side'. Let me clear this up--I will never personally own a gun. I don't like 'em, and I fundamentally believe that they are a statement of 'giving up' on any other action (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well actually it was from the site. However on this particular issue yes I do belive liberals are stupid. On other issues I will agree that conservatives are idiots, like the 'Ban Gay Marriage' campaign. (...) Yes but so does liberal (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) OK. So if I know that it takes the average hole digging person an hour to dig a hole of a certain size, and that's an accepted market value, can I charge 50 minutes to dig it instead of an hour (giving a discount or a gift if you like)? Is (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:I2ALon.22wt@lugnet.com... (...) needs a (...) some (...) hour." (...) wants (...) True, that's a lot of it, but not all. He wants to hire the most efficient excavator, because he knows (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sure, but the root point was that it helps society somehow. I wonder. And, people in other parts of the world actually do support female genital mutilation for the same reasons...and more convincingly, I think. Chris (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I guess your main point is that _some_ services will have greater demand than supply and the free market provides a method of allocation. Off hand (though I'll continue to think about this) I would leave it to the individual suppliers to (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Do you subscribe to that idea, or are you merely propogating it? In any case, you should check (URL) here> every week for an inexhaustible supply of Conservative idiots. Updated weekly, because Conservative idiocy just keeps coming! Dave! (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(Also known as the proof positive that Liberals are not just stupid, but insane.) As much as we really don't need to start this debate up again I have to share this if nothing else to hear what others have to say. While numbers 2, 3, and 4 are based (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, that's a perfectly valid concern to bear in mind. All routes for corrupt data should be considered even if only to recognize the potential flaws when the study is published. Chris (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You can give gifts of your time. You can not institute and exchange that values your time more highly than another's. Chris (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What I wouldn't pay to be watching the news when that happened... Chris (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:I2AHnn.17AB@lugnet.com... (...) true but (...) there (...) men (...) even on (...) Well, one could still argue it promotes monogamy, even if not very successfully. Frank (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:I2AH9I.13p2@lugnet.com... (...) not (...) of (...) Tercells (...) Lexus (...) almost (...) never (...) or (...) enough for (...) should (...) to pay (...) a (...) hour (...) Hmm, how (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd start by correllating success in life as measured by the normal societal values: level of education, income, marital stability, etc. as well as psychological problems (including substance abuse, depression, etc), medical problems, (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Or wishful thinking about it turned into inflated claims of actuality? People DO brag... (sorry, couldn't resist) (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm wondering how commonly held this view is. It doesn't strike me as true but I don't have any specific information with which to refute it. I guess there was a big study based on a survey in which sixty-some percent of married men admitted (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I tend to remember "shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in 3 generations" and "a fool and his money are soon parted" and not worry about that. That's a pat answer but ... (...) So there's a unit of currency and it's a manhour, then? All else (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I actually agree with an awful lot of what Larry says in this thread. But not all of it. And I think he's misread me in a couple of places. I'm not talking about eliminating market mechanisms from the determination of what work can be rewarded. Only (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's sorta irrelevant-- As I stated elsewhere, yes, I'm all for allowing polygamy, etc (provided some probably some other changes), and all for letting consenting aliens get married if we find any, but that's not the point. The proposed (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) ;) I will concur that the possibility of a bad parent exists if he or she's been married numerous times. Who knows how good a parent Larry King is, for example. That said, unless there are specific documented instances against a person, he or (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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