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(...) The examples of the things we have right are theories-- the examples of things we don't are specifics in trying to apply those theories. Of course we aren't perfect, but we have the perfect blueprint of government-- namely Freedom and (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yes. Do you claim to only believe in things that are provable? In the final analysis, what would you say about a devout scientist who believed in God? Is he/she compromised as a scientific thinker? (...) Yes, but I'm curious. There are so many (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I wasn't really addressing your claim of whether we have it right or not. We do have some things right (democracy, freedom of the press, separation of church and state, freedom to move, freedom to leave) most of the time, and there are some (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It isn't the height of arrogance to claim that anymore than it is the height of arrogance to claim we don't have it right. That is -->Bruce<--'s point. That is also the problem with moral relativism, but I digress. Getting back to "we've got (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm sure he'll go AWOL and work on somebody's political campaign. ;-) (...) Can't and shouldn't tell the media what to write - he would simply need to direct them to the unemployment line (but I understand the sentiment). (...) Yup. (...) As (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Okay - now, I've deleted all that preceeded this paragraph above because it indulges in everything you just disavowed. There, a clean slate. If you want to go back into the particulars, I'll be only too happy to shoot you down yet again. :-O (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I'm not convinced that we should have invaded Iraq in the first place, and I'm not sure what to think now: (URL) of me is starting to feel like we should just quarantine these states. I don't know how you fight people who are so caught up in their (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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From (URL) I think that in the case of the [Bush] administration, they really believed it. They really thought they were right, but they didn't let enough sunlight into their thinking process to really have the kind of debate that needs to take (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) here> BTW: Libertarianism rejects the notion of "community" as a liberal fantasy... there is only "me me me" in Libertarianism. ;) Scott A (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) via my paypal account ;) Scott A (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sounds like the beginnings of a worthy plan. Where does one sign up for the Scott A for President campaign? Richard Still baldly going... (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I figure that you and I both know that we're getting off the initial point of the debate, so our audience may wish to tune out at this point! On what basis are you sure of that? Faith? I'm afraid that's simply insufficient for me (and in any (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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From (URL) The Onion>, of course: Libertarian Reluctantly Calls Fire Department CHEYENNE, WY—After attempting to contain a living-room blaze started by a cigarette, card-carrying Libertarian Trent Jacobs reluctantly called the Cheyenne Fire (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Have Bush work point with the Marines/Army in Falluja Have the media call American Security Contractors "mercenaries"… because that is what they are! Rip up the rigged Iraqi constitution. Involve the UN on its terms. Listen to Iraqis... and (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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So you're Ralph Nader and you wake up one afternoon in November to find that due to a glitch in electronic voting, you've been elected President of the United States. What do you do to make things right in Iraq? Does anyone have a workable plan? (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I didn't think I was, but if your interpretations of my writing style is 'holier than thou', I shall endeavour to rephrase. As it stands, my interpretations of your debating technique in this thread are--you're firmly ensconsed in what you (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ...and will we ever know the "complete circumstances"? I doubt it; these guys will get away with murder… as will the minority of the troops in Iraq who have abused their position (as a result of poor training). (...) Your loyalty is misplaced. (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What if your countrymen shirk that "responsibility"? (...) But you welcome one which reflects your own narrow moral views? Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) <chuckle> That's cute. Its offensive but you're not personally offended? What are you, publicly offended? Its offensive to others, but more enlightened folks such as yourself are not offended? <chuckle some more> Really. (...) There are some (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) First, I do not blindly support Bush. I am a 1 issue man, and Kerry can have my vote at any time if he ever supports (URL) The Fair Tax> (...) I would say that neither of us knows the complete circumstances in these cases and so commenting on (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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