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| (...) Ahhhhh, Stalin, making the world safe from Tyrany! :-) (We would have irradiated Germany in addition to Japan, to answer your question) -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) The Balkans didn't make the list? Some people have short memories. Still, I suppose after several centuries of Europe creating global wars, I have hope that Europe has learned something (now if only Dubya had actually studied in his history (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Thank God the British didn't feel that way. (...) Oh if wishing made it so! Iraq agression was ended in the first gulf war. What agression was there this time? Anyway, think that's been said before. Sr. was a far better leader than his son. (...) (21 years ago, 11-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Yeah, but in fairness -- until Japan came after us, the war was someone else's problem. Harvey correctly identifies our psycho foreign entanglements as THEE huge problem for the U.S. -- I certainly doubt the average U.S. citizen understands (...) (21 years ago, 11-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) How does one respond to this without starting a flame war... It was the Allies who 'won the war' and 'liberated Europe'. As for the rebuilding, didn't the allied nations all contribute? And wasn't it a good thing that they did? I think I may (...) (21 years ago, 11-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Indeed. How can something that has never yet existed be threatened? Today, 5 years ago, 10 years ago, there is and has been more people fighting than at the height of World War II. Of course I forget that the handful of affluent nations that (...) (21 years ago, 11-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Or not. Pedro (21 years ago, 11-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Actually, Europe probably remembers American WWII veterans with great fondness and gratitude. However, Europe correctly identifies Lt. George W. Bush (during the brief, non-AWOL period of his service) as a warmongering frat-boy imperialist (...) (21 years ago, 11-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| Those same Europeans also forgot who liberated their parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents during WWII. They also forgot who rebuilt France, Belgium, West Germany, and Japan as well. -HRH (Wishes the US would withdraw ALL foreign aid and (...) (21 years ago, 11-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Does he mention the US's allies in this; countries like Uzbekistan and Israel? (URL) from the Guardian> Mr Murray (British ambassador to Tashkent) gave a scathing speech condemning the Uzbek human rights record last year, which infuriated (...) (21 years ago, 10-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| Well, so far it's the full cloned animal in question: Cloned Food OK by FDA Reuters, 05:50 PM Oct. 30, 2003 PT (URL) I know what you are talking about too, but I think we are still some time away from that. If careful studies reveal that there are (...) (21 years ago, 8-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| Who says cloned pig is a clone of a full pig? They've been working on "vat flesh" for some time. If they were going to clone pig meat, it might be more environmentally conscious to just use vats. And after R&D expenses are covered, the meat gets (...) (21 years ago, 7-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I think you have mixed up the idea of cloning with something else. A cloned pig is not some vat of proscuitto flesh that doesn't create waste, rather it is a very close genetic replica of another animal. I think a cloned pig would still (...) (21 years ago, 7-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) I didn't much agree with the article cited (a bunch of nonsense in my view), but I think I agree with your conclusions. So fine, we identify a host of countries as possible enemies, or as the possible safe harbors of our enemies. So fine, (...) (21 years ago, 7-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (URL) has been derided here in the past as has Mr. Hanson. But read it anyway and think about it. This paragraph, in particular, is likely not to be popular with the apologists: "In short, our enemies are ideological fanatics who benefit from (...) (21 years ago, 7-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| From the (URL) BBC> The EU asked a bunch of people about which countries posed the biggest threat to "World Peace". The following did not score all that well: Israel 59% US 53% North Korea 53% Iran 53% Iraq 52% Afghanistan 50% Pakistan 48% We live (...) (21 years ago, 7-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| The Economist periodically does in depth studies of various topics. In this weeks edition, they have done a series of articles about the United States of America. I found it to be quite interesting reading: (URL) may or may not agree with their (...) (21 years ago, 6-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (URL) not a big MS fan but hey, nifty. Now if they'd just spend a little more on making their stuff a bit less security flawed in the first place... (21 years ago, 5-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) All your base are belong to us! Dave K (21 years ago, 5-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| It gets better: (URL) (21 years ago, 5-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (URL) something you don't see every day. You always hear about the "by one vote" legends. Well, In Portage County in Ohio, here's an amusing election result. TALLMADGE CITY COUNCIL - WARD 2* ONE TO BE ELECTED ROBERT D. MAGUIRE DEM 1 100.00 DENNIS (...) (21 years ago, 5-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) My friends and I sometimes make up words that fit the happening, like "Hey! Vuja-de!! This has never happened to us before" and we look around all curious and awed-like. It is usually said in an ironic voice 'cause what had, indeed, (...) (21 years ago, 5-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Hey Larry, Sometimes I'm 'off my game' as well. No worries about this at all--it has been fun :) And the more that happens, it seems, the more fun it becomes! It's a perpetual 'fun-times' thread, filled with romance, mystery, and that little (...) (21 years ago, 5-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Oops! (...) (21 years ago, 5-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Richard, Have you ever headed down I-5 around Bakersfield, where they have a LOT of cattle? On a really hot day, just after the cows have turned over a field? Imagine that stench, 100 times stronger, and less natural smelling. Pig farms will (...) (21 years ago, 5-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) It's like (URL) deja vu all over again>. (proving my point once again:-) JOHN (21 years ago, 5-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Larry Pieniazek wrote: (snippage) Geezopetes, I forgot to set the FUT to just debate... so now instead of the thread moving, it's duplicated... all of it, even the part where I get agreement that it doesn't belong in .fun (...) (21 years ago, 4-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Didn't you already post that (URL) Dave! (21 years ago, 4-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Irony!! Stop it!! You're killing me!!! (...) Ooh! DEATH!! Dave K -who doens't mean to sound like Iain, but after this monstrously bad day, anything like this just cracks me up! (21 years ago, 4-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Didn't you already post that (URL) Dave! 8^) (21 years ago, 4-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) That which has been is that which will be, and that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun. Is there anything of which one might say, "See this, it is new"? Already it has existed for ages which (...) (21 years ago, 4-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) (URL) Chicken Run> made use of that joke, as well. Clever! Dave! (21 years ago, 4-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) My jury's still out on GM foodstuffs, though I agree that the GM-status of a product should be clearly indicated. (...) Maybe not, but it will be exactly as good as the proscuitto you ate before! (...) True enought, but the grains that we had (...) (21 years ago, 4-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) (snip) My all-time favorite Wizard of ID comic: Sir Rodney comes running into the presence of the King and exclaims, "Sire, the peasants are revolting!" Wryly under his breath the King observes: "You can say that again." Classic. JOHN (21 years ago, 4-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) That's actually far easier said than done. And increasingly more problematic in the U.S. than some other countries apparently (esp. Europe, I admit I have no idea about the food standards in Canada). Random thoughts: I just want to know that (...) (21 years ago, 4-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) I wouldn't eat that stuff under almost any conditions. They should feature it in 'Fear Factor' for the eating part.... I remember an old 'Wizard of ID' comic in which the King, while sitting (...) (21 years ago, 4-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Doh! That's where I meant to put it. Force of habit, I suppose. Or maybe LUGNET suffered a glitch that put my .fun post in .debate despite my best efforts. That seems likely... (...) I feel worse and worse about posting the link, but I swear I (...) (21 years ago, 4-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Food can be scary--all the preprocessed stuff and additives and whatever. Yet people still live. And they're living longer now than 'ever before'. Eh, I eat what I want to eat, and try to take reasonable care of what goes into this (...) (21 years ago, 4-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) .debate. I presume you know that, Dave! It's also kind of annoying because it asks me if I want to install something or another (some spyware presumably, I turned it down pretty fast so I forget)... which I find ironic for a site ostensibly (...) (21 years ago, 4-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Particularly objectionable to Reagan's sycophants was (URL) CBS's> choice not to include the scene in which the sacrosanct former President multiplied the loaves and fishes, nor the part in which he created the world in six days. No doubt The (...) (21 years ago, 4-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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