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Do gun laws prevent violence? Health officials don't know (URL) ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) --A sweeping federal review of the nation's gun control laws -- including mandatory waiting periods and bans on certain weapons -- found no proof such measures (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Eeeet izzz trash poh-lo-teecs! Und I vish to ahh-poh-lo-gize to the vemmen I hoff fon-dohld. Sieg Heil, mein Fuhrer! I can valk! Heck, even Ahhhnuld has a Strangelovian two-minded reaction to the charges (and I got to sneak in an oblique (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Scott: I might be one of the few people that might respond to this, so I will. But in reality this subject is just a sideshow. Sadly, this probably has at least a little to do with the way many Californians are going to vote the way they will next (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I haven't seen this discussed here so I thought I would bring it up. On Wednesday the LA Times launched a huge hit piece against Schwarzenegger, with four negative articles including a front page story about Arnold's alleged indiscressions. It (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Love the sinner, hate the sin. ;) Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Too true. Billions down the hole, and the net result of this "cowboy diplomacy" is that everyone hates the U.S. as never before. Wonderful! -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) If true, I'd expect lots of snarling "conservatives" would have jammed it down our throats by now. It's just a case of wishful thinking (on your part). ;) Scott A Have you had a look at Arthurs Seat Yet? (2 URLs) (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The article stated: "It did not say when or how the smugglers entered Kuwait or when they were arrested." So basically, these are weapons in Kuwait. Yeah, I guess the U.S. is not completely in bed with Kuwait. The rest is speculative as far as (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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No Smoking Gun, No Imminent Threat.... and No Surprise? My personal view on SH before we bombed him was that: He probably did have some form of WoMD. He would use them if threatened. He did not represent an imminent threat to the region or the (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) At this point a lot of people are in "don't cry wolf with me any more" mode... I know I am. We know Saddam had WMD at some point, that's not in dispute, he used them on his own people. We know Saddam was a very very bad man, that's not in (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Has anyone else heard of this story? If true, it would be big news IMO-- I wonder why it hasn't been picked up (by conservatives; I know why liberals might want to ignore it;-) JOHN (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The bigger question is: does free trade, or a free market, really exist in the first place? My answer is: "No." As a consequence of that, everything can be seen as pandering to a particular interest group. Even if we had a truly and perfectly (...) (21 years ago, 2-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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From USA Today: (URL) President Bush (news - web sites) has departed from the Republican Party's deep-seated belief that open markets lead to stronger economies, more jobs and higher living standards. Last year, his shortsighted moves to raise (...) (21 years ago, 2-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Next step... (was Re: Interesting idea...?!)
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(...) Why don't they move to Iraq? The government is so small there these days as to be completely nonexistent. Plus, the line about "not to invade, but to restore liberty" would be perfectly in line with the stated goals of the Shrub (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The envelope please. And, the winning state (or losing depending on your outlook) is: Ne Hampshire! Live free or die Libertarian! "Where not here to invade and take over, but to restore liberty," said one spokesperson. In other words: take (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) also, but it's such a beautiful place too. Its one of my favorite states along interstate 80. Anyway, I haven't promised anyone anything -- but if the Libertarian party takes over I might just move there. It won't be worse than Shrub et al (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Next step... (was Re: Interesting idea...?!)
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(...) (URL) Dave! (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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All hail Governor Bush for coming clean with (URL) this bit> of useful info despite what Cheney was still parroting just days before. And to hear Dubya tell it, he can't understand why a majority of the American people continue to believe that (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I like your thinking on this, Lar. I'm with you 100%. Of course, the "powers that be" might have a different view of these ideas. It makes one want to inquire as to their motives, of course. (...) What people? The future consumers of Iraq, you (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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From: (URL) Bush administration strongly opposes using loans for the Iraqi reconstruction request." Why shouldn't Iraq pay for this, exactly? Take me through this logic again? "It argues that Iraq's $200 billion debt is already more than it can (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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