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(...) If I'm reading your statistics right, then I think the actual figure is 0.004 percent. I selected only homicide-related firearm deaths, yielding a total of 10,801, which represents 0.0039 percent. If my calculation is wrong, someone please (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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After a long absense, she finally got around to posting a few more articles. (and I couldn't be happier) (URL) for the faint of heart--language is on par with AA movies. If you're really in a particular jaunty mood, see what she said in her latest (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've never liked seat belt laws. It is fundamentally, a persona choice whether to buckle up or not. I say "Darwin, go to it!"--I'll wear my seatbelt because I want to, not because some law makes me. ANd od someone doesn't buckle up, that's (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 25,000 violent deaths per year due to firearms is not a 'rampant problem'? 68 deaths a day 3 per hour. In the time it took us to write back and forth, say 3 hours, 9 people have died. 9 people whos violent "non accidental" deaths could have (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Now here is a really good article: (URL) of posting it refers to the September 10th article titled "Click it or Ticket" will likely soon be moved to here: (URL) Petrucelli (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well lets see... According to that site only 0.00004 percent of people decide to abuse freedom by killing others with guns. And only 0.00006 percent of people decide to kill themselves with guns. So in the "supposedly freeest society" only (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Still not seeing it. Let's take the general (moral position) case here for a sec. Consider if the government said in a policy statement "we prefer if people pay their debts rather than dodge their creitors". That's a moral statement. Does the (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) However, having the gov't making a 'judgement' about where your tax dollars go based, as far as I can see, only on a 'Christian moral value', therefore excluding other groups who don't (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was with you (abstinence education as the sole path is a terrifically stupid approach) till this last bit, how's this a first amendment violation again? Free speech isn't free, remember, you the speaker have to pay for it. There is no (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why is that? What in your society, supposedly the freeest society on the planet, causes you to kill each other more often, per capita, than any other country in the world during peace time? I'll go so far as to grant you the premise that if (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) the terms of the multi-million-dollar fund which have been made available under President Bush for abstinence education, schools and groups can only claim federal money for sex education programmes if the classes have as their "exclusive (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) Go there now, tell your friends, spam your enemies. Yeah, yeah -- we'll just end up with another problem with our V.P. but I still think it sends a message. Besides, it's funny. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So what? All you've done is show that people are smart enough to use the best tool for a certain task -- if you intend to kill someone a gun is a good choice for that job. In a sense, if you could eliminate a person's motivation to kill you (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) What a fascinating site. Here's a few figures-- 1. What was tthe intent or manner of the injury? -violence-related 2. What was the cause or mechanism of the injury? -all (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I always see the term "gun related deaths" used when I see these kinds of statistics. I have no idea whether there's a criminal factor in the assessment of the deaths at all -- frankly, why should there be? I think its possible that you are (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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First I should say I am anti-gun ownership, possibly partly due to the fact that I am a UK subject (not citizen as I don't live in a republic) A point that appears in this thread is the term gun crime. In the UK pretty much all gun deaths/injuries (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think if it actually came to nukes everyone lost already. Of course I happen to think oblivion is better than slavery, but I would still consider that losing. (I may be a little crazy, but I am not stupid.) -Mike Petrucelli (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, call my old man paranoid, but he is convinced the "smaller" nukes just okayed by the Senate are for use "in country." I generally support the right of citizens to be armed at the same level as the professional military, but I think I'll (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | The Unstraight story
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Bush: No evidence Saddam was involved in 9/11 attacks (URL) "There's no question that Saddam Hussein had al Qaeda ties," the president said. But he also said, "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11" attacks. The (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) My vote has no power at all. The power of the people is derived from their status of being collectively stronger than the military forces of the government. I seriously doubt that will ever need to be used, but so long as the government has (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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