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(...) The two ideas are not really related. An informed citizenry does not automatically follow just because of the mere existence of civil rights. The existence of civil rights should help one be an informed citizen, but it is in no way a political (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But a gun's purpose isn't interently to shoot a person; that's an inferential purpose. By extension, the purpose of a pair of scissors is to cut things, therefore I can cut someone's throat with them, so scissors should be banned. A baseball (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Thank goodness!> Dave! (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And scissors, pencils, and LEGO all have a primary function which has nothing to do with the ending or maiming of a life. What is a gun's *primary* function? As soon as you start realizing you can't sit there and say, "Well, such-n-such can (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) "Insisting" is not a word that I think the NRA would use or want you to use. "Insisting" would means that they back mandatory gun safety courses as a precursor to gun ownership, something I don't believe they back (they want no impediments to (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Related-- (URL) Bush escaped an Iraq row ... Why hasn't George Bush encountered the same storm of criticism in the US over his intelligence claims on Iraq as Tony Blair has received in the UK? " " In the end, George Bush did not need the (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I think that Al was too lenient when he says "Lies and the Lying Liars who tell Them--A fair and balanced look at the right" Perspective is everything. From the DU website: ((URL) remember when we were going to get Saddam Hussein, find his weapons (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Mike, for maximum effect: "I could be difficult and argue what the definition of is is". All I do is give, JOHN (21 years ago, 13-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I could be difficult and argue the definition of is*, but I think your logically right. ;-) There are quite a few things that might be responsible for the decrease in crime, like the increased rate of incarceration of criminals for example. I (...) (21 years ago, 13-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I agree with that. Now I am not an NRA member but one of their biggest "causes" (for lack of a better word) is insisting on responsible owenership. They also support mandatory minimum prison sentances for persons who commit crimes with guns. (...) (21 years ago, 13-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Probably more time than you imagine. Pulling off a 'spontaneous' event like that can take days of planning. (...) Not quite true. Matt made a comment that a ten year anniversary is tin, and thus the reason for the tin foil sculpture. Someone (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm... maybe you are right. I didn't see it that way. Anyway, the harsh-ness of my post wasn't toward Eric, but towards Conan, so I hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings here. Whatever is the reason why he didn't appreciate the gifts, I think (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd have to agree. The whole thing played out rather stiff, with the Today show folks trying to create a wacky, outrageous situation (aping Conan's style?) and failing pretty miserably. Then again, live TV comedy is pretty tough. Anyhow, the (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As half-a-million legally owned guns are stolen in the USA each year, I'd suggest gun crime is somewhat dependent on lack of gun control legislation. ;) Ownership is one thing; ownership without responsibility is a different kettle of fish. (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Living in fear helps us all become good consumers. Have you never heard of Edward Bernase or his uncle? Scott A “I'm proud to be maladjusted and to which I call upon you to continue to be maladjusted." MLK (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's not quite right. Logically, data cannot be used selectively to demonstrate the efficacy of gun control laws. However, it does not logically follow, therefore, that no correlation exists between gun control and gun crime. I happen to (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I would add to that the media slogan "if it bleeds, it leads" in terms of priority of news coverage. At least one study has demonstrated that murder rates have gone down by something like 18% over some recent period of time, but news coverage (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Did you read what you wrote? (...) So making Hadguns illegal has only caused criminals to use other guns. (What a surprise.) Have you ever heard of the Black Market. Criminals will always have guns. (...) can draw is that both sides are using (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Online, I have no idea. Now in the papers, on the radio, on TV there have been numerous citations of studies which indicate that the crime rate as gone down but the brutality of crimes that do happen has increased, giving the overall (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Having watched the entire spot, I would agree with Rick's assessment. If anything, Conan was polite and took it all in comedic stride. Regards, Allan B. (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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