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(...) Not much of a memory, have you Mr. Neal? Many here doubted the WMD evidence from the first. We all laughed at Colon Powell's poor performance before the U.N. (there are even sources that claim he was angry at the doctored evidence he was (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) He did have them in the eighties. We did not know if he had them now. Those things, once used, don't grow in trees... (...) Perhaps the weapons inspectors were too keen on following misleading intelligence work provided by the allies, rather (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, that's one way of looking at it. THen there's that truth, which is entirely a different matter-- "We have to go to war *now* because SH is a clear and imminent threat to the USofA." And, if I do recall, that the idea that Saddam had WMD (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Of course, I think my dad might have you beat (since he hasn't met the Filz I met). Of course there may also be a connection, so it may be hard to know if I should really stop counting... Frank (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Look, before the war there wasn't ANYBODY who doubted that SH had WMD. It was a given; period. There is documented proof that he used them on the Kurds and killed them by the 100,000s for crying out loud! So all of this "where are the WMD" is (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, you know that "moron" is all that Canadians know.... 'Cause A****** isn't a nice thing to say. Dave K (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. JOHN (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) haven't found Saddam Hussein, and I don't know anyone who's running around saying he didn't exist," Rumsfeld told reporters Thursday, following a closed-door briefing on Capitol Hill. " That's so true, Rummy! Since there *was* a Saddam, there (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) President George W Bush on Thursday said it would take time to find Iraq's chemical and biological weapons, but he promised to "reveal the truth" about them. " Holy bold faced idiocy, Batman! "To the UN" says Mr. Blix before Feb, "Searching (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh but there's so much 'wiggle-room'. "Hey, we found these mobile lab trucks that were used to make WoMD--there's your proof! I didn't lie!" says Dubya. And of course, there's probably in the very near future "Oh look here under this rock that (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Missing Weapons Of Mass Destruction: Is Lying About The Reason For War An Impeachable Offense? (URL) To put it bluntly, if Bush has taken Congress and the nation into war based on bogus information, he is cooked. Manipulation or deliberate misuse of (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, I can't stop setting a new record every day until I actually find someone named Schlickbernd not related to me (and yes, the two black women named Schlickbernd are related). :-P -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, you can't beat the record until you actually find someone not related to you! :-) :-) :-) Frank (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) All of my moral panic appears to have been for naught, since the media conglomerates have obviously been looking out for the public interest all along: (URL) This seems oddly reminiscent of the closed-door energy policy meetings held by the (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I rather thought she was spoofing the one with the other. If she was being serious, then she was just as moronic as Bush. Well, maybe not quite as moronic since Bush could put the drug terrorists out of business with a stroke of the pen (the (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Forgot to mention that this particular campaign is not really an example of deceptive LIBERAL spin, but rather of deceptive spin by the various "we know better" nanny state forces of whatever stripe, Those nefarious forces are to be found in (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ya, it's right up there with "if you smoke pot, you are supporting a terrorist"... which the LP debunked a while back. (URL) (1) (...) Why? "Green Acres, that's the place to be.... Faaaaaarm living, that's the life for me!" (2) Besides, I (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, but at least at that level it's "free." In fairness, I think the animatrix is, in part or in whole, available somewhere online as quicktime movies. I think they're all supposed to be released free online eventually, even if not all at (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, I didnt expect it to be deep or philosophical, but neither did I expect to check my watch during the ubiquitous 20 minute car chase. A car chase? It was like they were not even trying. Because I had heard that the bros W had maintained (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I wasn't a huge fan of Arianna when she was conservative, and I like her less since her transition. I found her whole "If you drive an SUV you are supporting a terrorist" to be one of the worst cases of deceptive liberal spin. And she sounds (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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