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Given the inaccuracy of this counterfactual assertion: "Mr Mondale had taken over the seat previously held by incumbent Senator Paul Wellstone, who died in a recent plane crash." (1) (from: (URL) is not particularly difficult to disagree with this (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Vote against/for...
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(...) Warning--Spoonerisms: (URL) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is a little jarring - letting Sharon [a war criminal] enforce "justice" is crazy. I don't think the *current* Israeli government can be trusted to act on human rights abuses. I’m not alone: Amnesty calls for arrest of Israelis for war (...) (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Vote against... ...war. ...continued international power-grabs. ...corporate welfare. ...bad corporate accounting practices. Vote for... ...peace. ...concern over the national economy. ...a rational fiscal policy. ...corporate accountability. Today (...) (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Human Rights Watch: Suicide bombers 'war criminals'
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(URL) think my favorite quote was this one: "The report also included recommendations for the Israeli government, including the suggestion that its military not target Palestinian Security Services in reprisal for suicide attacks -- instead arguing (...) (22 years ago, 2-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Aw, shucks! Well, I'll harp on that string until it breaks. The Portland story was news to me, but I was struck by its resonance with the Pittsburgh episode. I wonder how many other such incidents are out there. (...) I prefer my clowns to be (...) (22 years ago, 1-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Dave! Dave! Dave! Is it getting so lonely in here that you have to rehash all of this old news? tsk, tsk... Dude, we still love you! And as to that Bush thing... Everybody loves a ******* clown! -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 1-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) nice. By that same logic I imagine that, since Bush isn't really the President, he couldn't ever really be impeached, right? In the spirit of wrongful detention, I'd like to cite an incident clearly illustrating the right to free speech as it (...) (22 years ago, 1-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: The Death of Paul Wellstone
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(...) Actually, Minnesota state law allows them to do this up to 4 days before the election. Problem is the absentee voters who are voting for a *Democratic* senate seat are going to be disenfranchised because votes for Wellstone will not legally go (...) (22 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: The Death of Paul Wellstone
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(...) The Toricelli decision will embolden the Democratic-Farmer-Labor party to put in whoever they think is most electable, no doubt. I'm saddened too. Especially since it happened in a light plane. (22 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I curious as to the ramifications of his death. Will the Democrats try and elect another dead man? Since Wellstone's wife died in the crash as well, you can't have her serve as happened in the extremely bizarre election of the dead senator Mel (...) (22 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Or enforced. I don't want to make light of this event, but I am curious what the conspiracy theorists will dream up for this one. -Kyle (22 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | The Death of Paul Wellstone
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Although I disagreed with virtually everything this man stood for, I am saddened and shocked upon learning of his untimely and tragic death. My thoughts and prayers go out to his surviving daughters and family. It seems his promise that he wouldn't (...) (22 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe the Washington Sniper should be refered to as the "Washington shooter at unexpecting people from a hiding place" to protect the good name of 'sniper'? ;-) Cheers Richie (22 years ago, 24-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Is the Intifada working?
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(...) The terrorists win every day. Every time Hammas sets of a bomb, and Bush/Sharon respond by saying they won't talk to Arafat - Hammas wins. Every day Israel steals more and more land - Israeli extremists win. The very last thing Sharon or (...) (22 years ago, 24-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow, this may be the first time I have ever heard that terrorism might actually be successful in bringing down a gov't. People aren't shopping for fear of getting killed, tourism drasically down, recession, 10 percent unemployment, and the (...) (22 years ago, 24-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Snipers are ordinary people, who have taken on an extraordinary job. The title 'sniper' is one we wear with pride. Real snipers save lives, every time they go to work." From: (URL) A (22 years ago, 24-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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It looks like it is: Israel asks US for $10bn to halt recession - Intifada takes its toll on a once-buoyant economy (URL) is interesting about the text is how Sharon is reported to be using Iraq as a lever to get more US tax dollars from Bush Jr. (...) (22 years ago, 22-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Oral Argument: Eldred v. Ashcroft
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For more check out: (URL) I of the U.S. Constitution states the following: "To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;" (...) (22 years ago, 21-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I ran across this linked from Penny Arcade... (URL) appears serious (but how can you tell these days). :-) or at least formatted prettily. Contrast with: (URL) (and other variants, which have been around a long time). I posted to both .fun and (...) (22 years ago, 17-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would imagine that both are related to the level the economy is operating at. (...) I'm not sure "Railroads" have been nationalised in the UK(?) - I exepct Tony has went the "3rd Way". (...) However you look at that mess, it is not an (...) (22 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What are the other criteria used to determine/justify these "natural monopolies?" (...) My coworker has a power line running to his house that he occasionally uses during peak use times on the weekend, but primarily generates his own power. If (...) (22 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *some* economists do. Others reject the notion of a natural monopoly. The classic example is the (...) Just as a side note, I've said in the past that I didn't buy the natural monopoly argument, and have argued in detail against specific (...) (22 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: how to make points?
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(...) Since that would mean that my wife has standing to comment (at about 1/8 Native American) but I (at pretty much all European) don't... I would tend to hold it as not reasonable. Else she'll hold it against ME! (22 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I assume here you are taking about power supply rather than generation? Likewise for water supply and sewage collection - rather than water and sewerage treatment? (...) For some cities the airports may well be. But I think that as long as (...) (22 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Economist have a concept called "natural monopoly" which refers to a industry where the capital investment is so large that it is not in society's best interest for there to be one than one supplier. The classic example is the local power industry (...) (22 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The changes are outlined here: (URL) the UK we "invest" in roads and "subsidise" the railways. Scott A (22 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There was actually a pretty good opinion piece, I think in the NYT (but possibly in Newsweek), that discussed the disconnect between air travel and train service. It laid out the numbers and pointed out that since 1936, the airline industry (...) (22 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I believe the author is the late Paula Giese, and she certainly doesn't make any points with me for her patronizing attitude toward schoolteachers as well as for her panning of Lynn Reid Banks' Indian in the Cupboard: (URL) of the issues (...) (22 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Consider this page: (URL) author certainly makes a bunch of valid points (although I dunno about the "arrogant and ignorant Brits" being valid or not... :-) )... but consider whether he's likely to make many converts by berating his readership. I (...) (22 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This article makes the case against airline bailouts and airlines in general... (URL) found the Warren Buffett quote particularly hilarious (his frustration with airlines and their service was part of why he was instrumentel in founding the pioneer (...) (22 years ago, 13-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: DMs (was: Re: Dave's Anti-American Rant)
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(...) That's great! The CDs and book are probably not that bad, and I kinda like non-black DMs. I used to have a pair of cherry red three-hole shoes. Nice ones. Fredrik (22 years ago, 13-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In addition to my other garage sale FOTW (URL) found some new Doc Martens (1460 boots) in my size for $5! The only thing is they are a forest green color, and I was forced to take two CD's (Erasure and Duran Duran) and a Terry Brooks novel (...) (22 years ago, 12-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Or are they one of the puppet-masters? (...) You'll know when there are no other options available. Seriously tough, if you look at the Declaration of Independence, ( (URL) ) you can see some startling similarities between the state that they (...) (22 years ago, 12-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well as my original post was *meant* to convey, (of which the line was snipped,) was that what I assume is that most people who support gun control, actually believe it is for the overall good. I doubt most gun control advocates even think of (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That may be *one* of the reasons, but it's no more insidious than the NRA's big-business pro-gun lobby, which has much less to do with personal freedoms than it has to do with lining the pockets of the gun industry. That's not to say that the (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Warriors or Fools? (was Re: Former Iraqi General)
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(...) As if he weren't already a canonized thief, W has in a single stroke demonstrated that Clinton (anyone remember our most recently elected President?) was far from our least moral commander-in-chief. (...) Four of the six reps in my area voted (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Warriors or Fools? (was Re: Former Iraqi General)
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Well, it's all just so many words now. From what I understand of it, our reps did well by us in the Bay Area, CA. What's everyone else's excuse? It is not generally thought that any war right now will be good for the economy. With low sales numbers (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Isn't that the real reason behind the "gun control is good" lobby? "Support gun control and give up your fundamental rights today." The Tyrants that actually believe what they do is for our own good, are the most dangerous of all. (I know, I (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is a real interesting question. It's crystal clear to me that the parties should have a lot of say over how their name gets used. On the other hand, perhaps the parties should not "own" positions on the ballot. So, let's say a Republican (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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