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  Re: "Peace" can be dangerous (was: Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: ..)
 
(...) My point is that *any* amount of terrorism is unacceptable. So the fact that the number of homicide bombers reduces from say 10 a month to 2 a month is irrelevant-- *any* amount is too many. (...) What I am trying to point out is that as long (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Peace" can be dangerous (was: Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: ..)
 
(...) What do you mean? Isn't that the goal? The only goal? Isn't saving lives the whole reason for concern? I hope it's not just about retribution for you. (...) This can only be said if you extend the timeframe infinitely. It's like saying there (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Peace" can be dangerous (was: Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: ..)
 
(...) I was making a distinction of intent. The IDF does not *target* the civilian population as Hamas does. Yes, innocents are killed, but not intentionally. I find the distinction crucial. But if you want to make comparisons, answer this: why do (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Operation TIPS
 
(...) And did you hear of Bush scrapping the 5 billion (?) towards national security? I hope the fearless at ground zero will long remember how Bush shook their hands when the cameras surrounded him, but also how Bush stabbed each and every one of (...) (22 years ago, 14-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Operation TIPS
 
I am not a big fan of the Village Voice... or of Dick Armey either for that matter. But one has to secure allies where one can, I guess. This may be old news at this point but I did want to highlight it. (URL) (the link is a reprint of a Hentoff (...) (22 years ago, 14-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: shop.lego.com Broken
 
"richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:H0s2zn.7z@lugnet.com... (...) basic... (...) OK I agree fully that the navigation is the one item you need to make sure is working throughout. a simple link to a html only version would (...) (22 years ago, 13-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Peace" can be dangerous (was: Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: ..)
 
(...) Are you saying Israeli extremists do not murder Palestinians out of pure hate? Are you saying Israeli extremists did not wreck Oslo and Oslo II? (...) I agree they are oppressed. I agree murdering civilians is wrong. I reject the notion that (...) (22 years ago, 13-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: shop.lego.com Broken
 
(...) Lego.com is a site which sells Lego. If the extra 5% of users can pay for the extra development costs and return a decent margin the answer is "YES". It is all about costs and benefits. Scott A (22 years ago, 13-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: shop.lego.com Broken
 
(...) I don't see this as being that kind of issue -- we are talking about a simple left navigation device. 60% of one's time? Just do it right the first time and keep reusing the code. Lugnet, Bricklink, eBay, Amazon, bluelight, target, cdnow, etc. (...) (22 years ago, 13-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Peace" can be dangerous (was: Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: ..)
 
(...) Wanting and doing are two very different things. Besides, I have tried to make distinctions between Palestinian extremists and the GP all the time. It is my criticism of them that *they* aren't making that distinction more. (...) Those views (...) (22 years ago, 9-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: Is the Palestinian Cause Dead? The Latest Terror Attacks]
 
(...) John, "They" would say that their attacks are in response to Israeli oppression and murder. Indeed, there is little doubt that the current Intifada started with Sharon’s deliberately provocative trip to Haram al-Sharif. Further, there is (...) (22 years ago, 9-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Peace" can be dangerous (was: Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: ..)
 
(...) There are those in Israel who want to do the same to the Palestinians. You are using the views of extremists to condemn a whole nation. In the post you responded to I cited two articles. You chose to criticise the one backing dialogue and (...) (22 years ago, 9-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Instant Runoff Voting
 
(...) Ummm, I guess that would be the "give all the ones you dont want in a good hip & shoulders" voting system 8?) Didn't they use a variant of that technique in chicago many years ago? ROSCO (22 years ago, 9-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Instant Runoff Voting
 
(...) I would tend to agree.... the only way I would say the ballot would be spoiled would be if it was not clear what was intended. If I voted 1-A, 2-B and 3-A (again) that might be argued to be ambiguous. (or might not) To Ross, I'm not sure (...) (22 years ago, 9-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: Is the Palestinian Cause Dead? The Latest Terror Attacks]
 
(...) What's so hard to understand? The guy is not grasping reality: "The Palestinians cannot drive us away - they have long acknowledged our existence. This is simply not true, as I cited. They have been ready to make peace with us; it is we who (...) (22 years ago, 8-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: Is the Palestinian Cause Dead? The Latest Terror Attacks]
 
(...) I am not understanding your comments here, John. Here is a guy who despite what must be tremendous personal loss and grief is STILL seeking peace. Rather than look for fault on the other side, he is introspecting and finding flaws with the (...) (22 years ago, 8-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  "Peace" can be dangerous (was: Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: ..)
 
(...) Because the Palestinians are not one-minded. Hamas, for instance, has publically declared their desire to not end their fight until Israel is no longer. Peace is dangerous when one side's idea of it is the elimination of the other side. When I (...) (22 years ago, 8-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: Is the Palestinian Cause Dead? The Latest Terror Attacks]
 
(...) In what way John? Personally, I think what he is trying to do is laudable: (URL) is peace so dangerous in your view? Scott A (22 years ago, 8-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: Is the Palestinian Cause Dead? The Latest Terror Attacks]
 
(...) This guy is in *serious* denial. His thinking is more dangerous to Israel than Hamas itself. -John (22 years ago, 8-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: Is the Palestinian Cause Dead? The Latest Terror Attacks]
 
(...) Is this a reference to the Australian eBay auction offering a "Monkey Knife Fight"? At last, a sporting event I'd pay to see! [For the humor impaired: this is a joke!] -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 8-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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