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(...) Who knows? I don't doubt that these views exist. I don't doubt that the there are those who have the same views on just about any race or religion. I don't doubt that the rather colourful metaphors used as part of some cultures make things (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good point! We should look with more sympathy on the actions of the Palestinians given their plight. Chris (22 years ago, 23-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) lol sorry, guess I didn't parse that too well through space:-) (...) lol again, if it were that easy to shut down Scott, it would be employed *more* often>;-) There's no 'wiggle room', room for (...) I would certainly say that to a reasonable (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Here's another question to help reduce my ignorance: what's the source of the claims that I've heard again and again and again and again in the various media that the PLO in particular and vocal extremist groups in the Arab world in general (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was kinda going for a tongue-in-cheek thing there. It was a 'Hatred exists because of intolerance, you idiot!' thing--saying 'you idiot' expressing hatred and intolerance. You go on to say that what you should have sid in the first place, (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) D A N G E R ! Big mistake Dave. You are being objective. This is nothing but evidence of: a) Your bias. b) Your support for "PLO terrorists". c) The power of the international anti-Israeli media conspiracy. In the future, try to view this as a (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *sigh* (...) 2 Examples of Israel's terrorism: 1. How would you describe what Ariel Sharon done to the village of Qibya in 1953? 2. How about their planned attacks on cinemas inside Egypt? Scott A (22 years ago, 23-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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John, I started by saying you were jumping to conclusions, now I feel you are avoiding the conclusion. I had hoped that your formal study of the “Israeli-Arab Dilemma” would mean that I would be provided with some meaningful insight into the current (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So what's a Palestinian to do? Speak out against the PLO? Peacemakers aren't very welcome in the Arab world--just ask Sadat's widow. (...) None really, except to note that the US media is getting *so* biased that it is surprising even itself. (...) (22 years ago, 22-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No reason? I think you definitely had a reason. But if it is to imply that I hate Scott, you're wrong. I disagree with him, and I called him an idiot because what he proposed was idiocy-- that's all. (...) Which "heinous war crimes" is Israel (...) (22 years ago, 22-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You said: 1. “Sorry, there isn't one. “ 2. “The PLO represent the Palestinians.” 3. “Whatever the PLO does, the Palestinians support them.” 4. “Anyone who supports the actions of terrorists is just as culpable as the terrorists themselves.” (...) (22 years ago, 22-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Indeed, as an objective news source, this is right up there with the IDF site! ;-) Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 22-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) <snip> (...) I just thought that those two lines should be viewed together. No reason... Just because the atrocity is sanctioned by the government, it doesn't make the atrocity (...) (22 years ago, 22-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) that at least some people do get it. :) Dan (22 years ago, 22-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Here is an Article by Mona Charen. I think anyone who cares about the subject should read it. As of posting the link refers to her April 5th article. Her April 12th article is worth reading as well. (URL) Main Creators Syndicate Page is here (URL) (...) (22 years ago, 22-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think I clarified that. I said that if they *support* terrorists, they are as *culpable* as terrorists. Since the PLO represents them, they are in the unfortunate position of supporting terrorism. They are being woefully misled. Or (...) (...) (22 years ago, 22-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I said: "My views on human rights and international law, together with my understanding of recent middle-east history, leads me to sympathize with the Palestinian people, not with "PLO terrorists". I hope you understand the distinction between (...) (22 years ago, 22-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (22 years ago, 22-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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An interesting article by George PAcker in NYT - free reg reqd. "In some ways, global satellite TV and Internet access have actually made the world a less understanding, less tolerant place. What the media provide is superficial familiarity -- (...) (22 years ago, 22-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Having this discussion with you is futile-- I *never* said that I thought all Palestinians are terrorists. From your "sighs" in previous posts, it seems to me that you think that you have such a superior command of facts. Have you ever been to (...) (22 years ago, 22-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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