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| I know Women in Afghanistan and other countries are treated terribly... but this is disgusting! (URL) (proud to be a woman! I am not a feminist and the like, but respect goes both ways) (23 years ago, 6-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Why so? I'd go even further and say the ID card is sometimes practical (there is a better word in portuguese, but I cannot recall the translation). (...) Man, you are wicked... :-P *Date* of emission... or something like "Issued in Porto, on (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
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| (...) Very understandable. We all want to minimise risk! You may want to consider not getting out of bed in the morning, then, on a regular basis. It's a big bad risky world out there. Except, wait, that turns out to be riskier than being active. (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) (snipped) (...) Out of curiosity, what kind of rights do you have that we don't, and which might benefit us if we had them? Or said differentely, what rights would you be sacrificing? Pedro (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) See, that you think these reasonable is itself symptomatic. (...) Your ID card tracks emissions? :-) (lesse, mine would say Hot Air, some methane, some foam) (...) Right, we have those too with respect to SSN. Didn't work. ID cards are bad (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
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| (...) A lot of good that does the people that die from the incident. I would rather choose not to be one of those people. -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server Technical Support | Sun Microsystems Customer Service | iPlanet Support - (URL) Please do (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) No, it's pretty clear that he was IN Afghanistan, then left, then went back. This fits the known timeline of his movements. Doesn't mean it's true, of course (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Wouldn't. I used to like Larry quite a bit better 6 weeks ago than i do now. Unless he's convinced it's inevitable even if he doesn't believe in it, and his "free" software is a trojan horse to sell other software and services, in which case (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Right! This is exactly what I am advocating. Disassemble the country and reassemble it correctly. (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I'll take the other side of that bet in a heartbeat. As long as I get to set the overall rules of the game, that is. You can even call me on whether they conform to my principles or not. (...) Won't happen... unless that's the right outcome. (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes: (snipped) (...) Hi Chris, Maybe the reason you are experiencing such a fear is the fact that ID card is supposed to be "High Tech"... I have had a National ID card for ten years, and I only (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
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| Yes, the national ID card will be used with some effectiveness to fight international crime and terrorism. But in the midst of that fight our politicians will remain politicians. They will still fall in love with power and they will still propose (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) 'Life as an Office Christmas Party." A more horrifying dystopia I cannot imagine. (...) If there's a slippery slope to be found here, you might have just hit on it--it might be justifiable to implant an "insulin regulator" chip or an "epilepsy (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Well, produce it on command is what I meant. Though, having to wear it is even creepier. "Hi, my name is Chris!" (...) Yeah. I don't want _them_ implanting chips in newborns. OTOH, if there are nifty chips that we can implant to improve (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I'm missing something in this--do you mean if you're required to display it (wearing it on your lapel) or produce it on command (hey you, show me your ID)? Either would be objectionable, I agree, but I'm curious about which you meant (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Maybe the card itself is not a civil rights violations, but the many activities for which they will use such a thing are. First, if I'm required to disply my shiny new Federal ID, I consider it unreasonable search. I think of the right to (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I could sell her some LEGO, but I'd expect that were she in the market, she would buy from Scott. Chris (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Hello Larry, hello everybody, (...) How does it fit with earlier claims that bin Laden has been one of "our bastards" in the Soviet-Afghanistan war? Can he have acted from Sudan, or shouldn't this rather indicate he went to Afghanistan earlier than (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| ... for offering some hot air? Imagine, we would have been be able to identify airline passengers with 100% accuracy even before 911. How would that have helped to prevent anything of what happened? That said, I don't feel like a photo and a (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Hello Larry, (...) I think the question here should not be so much "is the actual number 500k or maybe 80% less or more", but instead: "What can we do to fix the problem." One possibility would be to lift the sanctions. In terms of military buildup (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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