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(...) We gave peace a chance. Then two commercial airliners hit the twin WTC buildings. If you are suggesting we forget about it and "give peace a chance", hoping peace prevails and nothing happens again...thats downright confusing to me. We are not (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [Snip: bible interpretation equating the WTC as symbol of greed] (...) Wow, normally I try to stay away from .debate, but I feel compelled to answer this one. Tore, I'm sorry about your personal situation, but you need to take a step back, (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm all for shops opening whenever they feel like it, the local city centre Tesco here has just started opening 24 hours a day and it is an extremely useful facility, especially for those of us who sometimes work odd hours. A chat with one of (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Have a look at this from Sky News: (URL) It seems that the insurance only covered loss of one tower, $1.2bn, compared to total value of $5bn. I wonder though, if Bush gets his way and it is declared an 'act of war', if they even get that much? I (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The limiting of the response limits the cost of committing these acts acceptable. Make the cost unacceptable, and the people willing to commit them will decrease, either through their own choices, or by the choices of their neighbors who don't (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bin Laden was a part of the Mujahedin guerilla, fighting the Soviet troops as they tried to invade Afghanistan. Key members of the Mujahedin guerilla where trained by the CIA, and rather successfully, too. They did hold off the Soviet troops (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Israel has been doing the exact thing the US has been, which is not working - limited responce. They bomb a street, Israel attacks a command post. They shoot at a schoolbus, Israel takes out a training camp. It's the _limiting_ of that (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And which government do you think has funded them and trained them? Which country's special forces trained Bin Laden in military and guerilla tactics? Which country trained the Iraqi troops? Which nation provides the most funds to the IRA? (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, and how exactly do we give peace a chance? What does that mean, just keep waving our fingers at these groups and the governments that fund, train, harbor, and protect them? Take it on the chin again and ask one government or another to (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) While it may be true that _portions_ of the footage were not in celebration of the attacks, the majority of it most definitely was. I have a friend and co-worker who is visiting family in Jordan. He managed to get an e-mail through and said (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have to think that you are tired, emotionally distraught, and simply not thinking straight -- because otherwise that is the scariest foreign policy I have ever seen publically expressed. You know, I am not at all happy about what has (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Gee, I hate to go all warm and fuzzy on you... ...but how about we give peace a chance? <3 -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Really? I guess we might as well throw this book of lies away then... =) BTW, these are not mere descriptions -- you know, silly stuff like where a whale swallows a man and delivers him to another country. It is my understanding that Joshua is (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sure. Create more martyrs. Great Idea. This sounds like the Israeli model to deal with terrorists. Does it work for them? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) exactly. well said. Dan (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) hold on there - the fact that the bible describes violence doesn't in any way mean that either the Jewish or the Christian/Catholic religions condone such actions. Yes, there are many stories of war in the bible, but one of the 10 commendmends (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) it does? saying that we need to kill someone who _says_ they want to kill us, and _have_actually_ acted so in the past is the same as killing someone just because they prey/act differently? Not in my mind. (...) uh, where did he even mention (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Richard, what specifically are the other ideas? You are being vague. What are you expecting to postpone? This is a life and death matter. There will be another attack. (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I'm going into Manhattan now. I've been working most of the night on my little part of restoring normalcy. I'm seething mad this morning. Who is my anger directed against? It's not directed at my Muslim co-workers, whom I expect to have lunch with, (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Years ago, the U.S. and other members of the world community sat on their hands as the Nazis performed atrocities before the world. Behind the scenes, many of our corporate "persons" profited from the blood and suffering of others (recently (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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