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  Re: Pay It Forward
 
(...) I don't get this. Why only help someone as part of a conditional agreement - why not just do good. What is the world coming to? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 27-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pay It Forward
 
(...) Larry, If you are going to claim that posters are not telling the truth, I think you should do us all the courtesy of indicating where you think the untruths lie. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 27-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pay It Forward
 
(...) Obviously, your question was not to me therefore what's to answer? (...) Chris can answer your question since only he knows what he meant by "How about Cuba?". I was just responding to your comments regarding Cuba and Communism. What part is (...) (23 years ago, 27-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pay It Forward
 
(...) That's all well and good (and you're welcome to believe it although much of is false), but you didn't answer the question. Fortunately I was asking Chris, I guess, so there's still hope. (23 years ago, 27-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pay It Forward
 
(...) You are correct that it isn't a good example, but because Communism has not been ALLOWED to work in Cuba due to the crippling sanctions (embargo, boycott, whatever you wish to call it) imposed by America. It's like denying someone food and (...) (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pay It Forward
 
(...) I'm not saying that the above excuse is a good one. Dan asked why would or wouldn't people do it-- and I answered. And I'm *very* sure that *some* people would give that reason. (...) Rather selfish, I'd say. Sure I consider my skills to be (...) (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pay It Forward
 
(...) What if person X *was* Adolf Hitler? Maybe your random act of charity might have forever changed him and prevented what he would have otherwise done. And, isn't the question "How do I know person X is deserving?" in itself "evil"? Are we (...) (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pay It Forward
 
(...) Are you saying that Cuba's systems are working well in practice? Are you saying Cuba is an example of Communism? Not clear what you're saying, exactly. I would say that it's not working well at all and isn't a very good example either. David (...) (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pay It Forward
 
(...) How about Cuba? (...) Agreed. If it is within your ability to help (and only you can define "ability") someone who needs the help (and, I think, only they can really define "needs"), then you "ought" to help. But not for more reward than the (...) (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pay It Forward
 
(...) Cynicism & selfishness. Actually, depending on the person, you could probably group cynicism under selfishness. (...) I think that's the general idea. But I think I'd say there are a few responses people would give to avoid "paying it (...) (23 years ago, 25-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Pay It Forward
 
Greetings! So I rented and watched the movie "Pay It Forward" a few nights ago. Pretty good movie. For those of you who haven't seen it, the story is about a troubled boy who, with a little inspiration from his teacher, puts into motion a plan to (...) (23 years ago, 25-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How to conduct an interview and not actually listen
 
(...) Although I prefer B), I am OK with A) as long as we don't get "C) it will be a travesty of the original work the way most SF movies are". (...) I'd go with "nothing" except both involve apparent humans. I tried saying that twice, actually, (...) (23 years ago, 21-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How to conduct an interview and not actually listen
 
(...) Larry wrote: (...) Something very like this interview took place in "Spin" magazine many, many years ago (circa the mid 80s) -- it was an interview with Pat Benatar conducted by Lydia Lunch. Throughout the text/interview, Lunch makes (...) (23 years ago, 21-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How to conduct an interview and not actually listen
 
(...) Card is writing the screen play for Enders Game as a current project. IIRC, he has scrapped the project a couple of times because of movie-company constraints and is keeping insanely tight control. I suspect A) it will never be made or B) it (...) (23 years ago, 21-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How to conduct an interview and not actually listen
 
(...) snip (...) Isn't it very easy to mislead adults too? Aren't adults the one who mislead children? What if an older child mislead a younger one? Who is *really* to blame? I'd personally say propaganda, issued either by the news (CNN comes to (...) (23 years ago, 21-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How to conduct an interview and not actually listen
 
(...) Right. Plus I think that by coming to the conclusion that THIS is what the book is about, she exposes her inability to think outside the boundaries of what she herself is interested in. As I said in my reply to Dan, in my view, the book is (...) (23 years ago, 20-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How to conduct an interview and not actually listen
 
(...) Mark the above sentence as "exhibit A" (...) It's not "freaky". Really. Trust me. I won't go into why, except to say you would have to read it, and accept the premises. (...) That's unfortunate. I suspect that these novels would not translate (...) (23 years ago, 20-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How to conduct an interview and not actually listen
 
(...) Sounds kind of freaky. I've never been much of a novel reader so I'll probably never get to it. But I imagine the author's choice to use little tykes as protagonists serves his commentary on modern societal values (or lack of)? (...) "South (...) (23 years ago, 20-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How to conduct an interview and not actually listen
 
(...) Granted. It's listed as an "interview," but it's only an interview in the most basic sense. (...) That's a good point, too. Caveat Interviewee, I guess, though I expect Card is sharp enough to have picked up on her agenda during the course of (...) (23 years ago, 20-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How to conduct an interview and not actually listen
 
(...) OK... Wasn't billed that way though. (...) But did she let the *subject* in on this intent? I don't think so, it looks like to me that it was billed (to Card) as just a normal interview. Card, in a perfect world, would have read some of her (...) (23 years ago, 20-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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