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Re: Pay It Forward
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Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:14:44 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Daniel Jassim writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > 
> > > Are you saying that Cuba's systems are working well in practice? Are you
> > > saying Cuba is an example of Communism? Not clear what you're saying,
> > > exactly. I would say that it's not working well at all and isn't a very good
> > > example either.
> > 
> > You are correct that it isn't a good example, but because Communism has not
> > been ALLOWED to work in Cuba due to the crippling sanctions (embargo,
> > boycott, whatever you wish to call it) imposed by America. It's like denying
> > someone food and then criticizing them for not eating enough. We really
> > don't have a fair way of knowing how well the Cuban government COULD work
> > since Cuba does NOT have the ability to trade for food, oil, raw goods, and
> > manufactured goods like other nations.
> > 
> > The reality is that the Cold War era American "old guard" are still pissed
> > at Castro for taking away their Havana getaway. The sanctions are
> > instruments of revenge, outdated yet kept in place mainly by America's elite
> > to spite Castro for kicking them out of Cuba. Money, not political idealism,
> > is the motivation here. The sanctions serve only to bring down Cuba some day
> > so that the country's beauty and people can again be exploited by wealthy
> > Americans.
> > 
> > Therefore, as far as using Cuba as an example of Communism NOT working, I
> > strongly feel that the American sanctions automatically negate the validity
> > of such assertions. To Cuba's credit, the nation has proved to be quite
> > flexible and resourceful in the face of one shortage after another.
> 
> That's all well and good (and you're welcome to believe it although much of
> is false),

Larry,
If you are going to claim that posters are not telling the truth, I think
you should do us all the courtesy of indicating where you think the untruths
lie.

Scott A


> but you didn't answer the question. Fortunately I was asking
> Chris, I guess, so there's still hope.



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(...) I'm not going to pollute this thread more than I did already. The thread is about an unusual mechanism for seeing good works happen. I am not sure that there is general interest in revisiting the larger topic of communism. If there is and (...) (25 years ago, 27-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Pay It Forward
 
(...) That's all well and good (and you're welcome to believe it although much of is false), but you didn't answer the question. Fortunately I was asking Chris, I guess, so there's still hope. (25 years ago, 27-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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