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Re: Pay It Forward
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Mon, 27 Aug 2001 06:44:58 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Daniel Jassim writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:

Are you saying that Cuba's systems are working well in practice? Are you
saying Cuba is an example of Communism? Not clear what you're saying,
exactly. I would say that it's not working well at all and isn't a very good
example either.

You are correct that it isn't a good example, but because Communism has not
been ALLOWED to work in Cuba due to the crippling sanctions (embargo,
boycott, whatever you wish to call it) imposed by America. It's like denying
someone food and then criticizing them for not eating enough. We really
don't have a fair way of knowing how well the Cuban government COULD work
since Cuba does NOT have the ability to trade for food, oil, raw goods, and
manufactured goods like other nations.

The reality is that the Cold War era American "old guard" are still pissed
at Castro for taking away their Havana getaway. The sanctions are
instruments of revenge, outdated yet kept in place mainly by America's elite
to spite Castro for kicking them out of Cuba. Money, not political idealism,
is the motivation here. The sanctions serve only to bring down Cuba some day
so that the country's beauty and people can again be exploited by wealthy
Americans.

Therefore, as far as using Cuba as an example of Communism NOT working, I
strongly feel that the American sanctions automatically negate the validity
of such assertions. To Cuba's credit, the nation has proved to be quite
flexible and resourceful in the face of one shortage after another.

That's all well and good (and you're welcome to believe it although much of
is false), but you didn't answer the question. Fortunately I was asking
Chris, I guess, so there's still hope.



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  Re: Pay It Forward
 
(...) Obviously, your question was not to me therefore what's to answer? (...) Chris can answer your question since only he knows what he meant by "How about Cuba?". I was just responding to your comments regarding Cuba and Communism. What part is (...) (23 years ago, 27-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Pay It Forward
 
(...) Larry, If you are going to claim that posters are not telling the truth, I think you should do us all the courtesy of indicating where you think the untruths lie. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 27-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Pay It Forward
 
(...) You are correct that it isn't a good example, but because Communism has not been ALLOWED to work in Cuba due to the crippling sanctions (embargo, boycott, whatever you wish to call it) imposed by America. It's like denying someone food and (...) (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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