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(...) I'm amazed by this lack of trust in the authorities. In the UK, we elect people to office. If they do a lousy job, we elect someone else next time. The constant threat of losing their job generally makes them listen to the populace during (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Call me wacky, but I'm sort of OK with reciting the pledge, once you're old enough to know what you're committing to, and with the proviso that you can leave the godstuff out. I like the US. Even with all the injustice and repression and (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No *perhaps* about it. He's a twit (1) and I'm a sucker for his trolling. 1 - not always!!! Just when he wants to be, which is a good part, but not all, of the time. ++Lar (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:GGq2pA.GDv@lugnet.com... (...) American flag is (...) little of (...) to do so. (...) across (...) curtail (...) And <snip> (...) No, Tom states that he thinks does not agree with people who (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:GGqFsC.CvJ@lugnet.com... (...) removed from (...) think that's (...) trivial (...) a kid in (...) and I kept (...) get in a (...) superstition. (...) significant (...) the pledge (...) (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GGqtL6.25y@lugnet.com... (...) owner needs (...) nothing ever is. (...) powerful (...) aposteriori (...) nonetheless, (...) white could (...) could (...) except (...) somewhere (and (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's been awhile, but I caught this, and I just have to respond...: Itching, let me tell you, is a complex thing. I've had skin problems from before I was one year old. Scratching the itch, indeed, relieves anxiety for a short period. But (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I support the notion that people ought to be competent users of any powerful tool, especially one as powerful as a gun. However... My objection to an apriori training requirement (rather than an aposteriori lawsuit for negligent behaviour) is (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Or shot more innocents. If the number of handguns were thinned out, it would be less likely Joe Blow would need his handgun. There is also the increased number of wackos carrying handguns to contend with ("Hey, you cut me off, well I'll show (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I'm going to address a few selective points here, please excuse me - tonight is my 9th wedding anniversary - goin out for a nice dinner. (...) That is very true. An armed and highly visible guard would have affected his decision, but I would contend (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Very concise! Y'all can talk about these issues until everyone is blue in the face (or at least blue in the typing fingers...) but in the United States we have de facto guns and drugs in the hands of anyone wanting them. Yes, we have laws and (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I kind of neglected part of this before. (...) "With all [my] eduction," I can reject lots of well regarded psychological theories. In fact, I have to since many of them are contradictory. There are thousands of people who have spent their academic (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And it's pretty closely related to two other gems: the use of conspiracy laws beyond cases involving treason (previously providing the only use of conspiracy laws), and the use of testimony bought with bargained for punishment agreements. (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) kind (...) What I really mean is that I think the God phrase is a relatively trivial point. I was raised as an athiest. I refused to say the pledge as a kid in school because of the God thing. It caused me all kinds of hassle, and I kept a (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) :-) (...) The smiley was meant (though obviously unsuccessfully) to point to my silly irony and indicate that such a result would _not_ be the best possible outcome. But I do think that it would be the outcome of a gun ban in the US. And I (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was replying in kind. Take it as you please, but I wasn't the first. My point was that it's a bad analogy because even with narcotic/alcohol prohibition, the first thing the criminals do is arm themselves. (...) Ah - a smiley. Hmm. Why am I (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wouldn't call a religious based argument dumb and petty (even if it is being asked for on nonreligious grounds, i.e. separation of church and state, or "what about the atheists?"), it might get a whole new thread going ;-) Oops, too late. (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is certainly a valid point, and close to home since a co-worker in the next building over from mine had his son involved in this very incident (thankfully unharmed). But it was the presense of armed guards, not Joe Blow with a concealed (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you saying, in essence (in this thread, and, like all of us, across many other threads), that you want to preserve, for example, your Constitutionally-enumerated right to bear arms, but you want to curtail someone else's (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's a *fantastic* summation. I read the various Chronicles in my early twenties, but when I tried to reread them a few years later I couldn't do it. One of Donaldson's greatests strengths is an obvious love of the language, coupled with a (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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