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    Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Richard Marchetti
   Hey Y'all: Check out eBay auction #526012994. LEGO 6987 MESSAGE-INTERCEPT BASE (UNOPENED) -- that is MISB. Perfect shape. I just recieved it today, it's my second MISB copy of this set. With shipping it came to approx $130 USD. That's 562 elements (...) (23 years ago, 12-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
   
        Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Paul Baulch
      richard marchetti wrote in message ... (...) bag (...) I'd tell you that drawing a comparison between retail prices and one-off bargains is silly! $130 USD for a 6987+shipping is a complete bargain. People were happily forking out $200 USD (...) (23 years ago, 12-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
    
         Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Christopher Masi
      (...) than 24¢ a brick. I understand that parts packs do not move in the volume that LEGO sets move. So, parts packs will be more expensive than sets, but sets go on sale, parts packs don't. Being a train fan I am used to not being able to shop at (...) (23 years ago, 13-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
     
          Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —John Neal
       (...) Really?? Sure sounds like one;-) FUT off-topic.pun John (...) (23 years ago, 13-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
     
          Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Christopher Masi
      (...) No pun, just stupidity on my part. (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.pun)
    
         Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Richard Marchetti
     (...) Just to say it, that is the approximate price I have paid during the last year for both MISB copies of that set. If it used to go for $200, well I guess the price has dropped. Frankly, I wouldn't pay a lot more than I have on these sets. You (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
    
         Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Mike Stanley
      (...) I'd gladly pay a premium price for an unopened older castle set (6071, 6067, 6074, 6086 come to mind) before I pay full or even 70-80% of full retail for the junk they have on the shelves now. I bought my last new sets at 67% off and I barely (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
     
          Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —James Simpson
      (...) Since i came out of my dark ages almost 2 years ago, I haven't paid MSRP for any non-SW set. As you said, the value for the dollar just isn't there. I echo the sentiment that I'd rather spend on the secondary market than pay full price for (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
    
         Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —John Neal
      (...) Well, I'll tell you what. What we are talking about here are apple and orange AFOLs. You are the type of AFOL who likes to build and collect *sets*. You pine for the old days when sets "were still good". Me? I am the exact opposite. I look (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
    
         Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Richard Marchetti
     (...) No, actually it's about the elements for me too. I never even wanted any space stuff until I conceived of Castle Blacktron some months back. So, it's absolutely about the bricks, but price remains important too. The only reason I care about (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
    
         Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Ed T. Toton III
     (...) Time for me to hop on the soapbox too. :) When I first heard they were going to make "bulk" packs available, my hope was that they'd do something like "1000 assorted white" for $30, and so on. The term "bulk" usually implies "large quantities (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
    
         Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Frank Filz
     (...) I don't think it's "obvious" they can do better. I think the buckets and tubs (pretty much only available in the US and Canada I think) are almost a loss leader. I don't think they actually are a loss leader, but I strongly suspect they are (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
    
         Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Eric Kingsley
      (...) Well as far as the overhead I think the two might be closer than you think. There is a lot of air in the Tubs so the tubs take up more space/part plus the lack of packaging on the bulk packs lower their overhead right away. My guess is that (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
    
         Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Timothy D. Freshly
      "Frank Filz" <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:3A8AD96B.7A79@m...ing.com... [snip] (...) I would guess that outside of the AFOL market (individually and through LUGs and LTCs), there is likely little demand for bricks by the 1000s. (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
    
         Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Doug Finney
      A tangentially related question: What happens to the bricks rejected from the system while changing the mold injectors from one color of plastic to another? I already use discolored, heavily scratched or simply "wrong" color bricks as filler in (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
     
          Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Tom Stangl
      (...) AFAIK, they scrap those bricks. I know someone that has about 30 or so "mixed" bricks, and they look REALLY COOL (green/yellow, black/red, blue/pink). As far as we know, the only way he could have gotten them in that bulk lot is if someone AT (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
     
          Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Doug Finney
      (...) I was wondering that, too, if they'd actually be cool for building in and of themselves but I've never actually seen any. The only "error" piece I recall having is a white 1x6 brick from the mid-70's that didn't get quite enough plastic at one (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
     
          Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Frank Filz
      (...) While it would be cool to get these, I don't foresee TLC ever intentionally making them available. Generally manufacturers like to hide this kind of problem as much as possible. What we can hope for is that some designer down the road gets a (...) (23 years ago, 15-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
     
          Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Scott Edward Sanburn
      Frank & All, (...) I don't think this is a problem per say, I would call it more of a plastic injection molding issue. When I worked in a plastic plant, and we did color changes, we always had to empty out the hopper, blow it out for the possible (...) (23 years ago, 15-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
     
          Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Frank Filz
      (...) I agree, it's not a result of an error or malfunction, but still something that's not generally desirable to show to the public. Frank (23 years ago, 15-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
     
          Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Tom Stangl
      Are you kidding?? The swirled parts look SO cool! People would want to buy them! Everyone that saw these parts at the NMRA show drooled over them and wanted them. (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (23 years ago, 15-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
    
         Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Ray Sanders
      (...) With the operative word being 'could'. The real question revolves around 'should they ?'. Some of our 'bulk bricks could be had for $x.xx/piece' discussions revolve around the prices seen in blue tubs. Does TLC make sufficient margins on blue (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
     
          Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Timothy D. Freshly
       "Ray Sanders" <rsanders@svic.net> wrote in message news:G8rMyy.F5M@lugnet.com... (...) of (...) space (...) consumer (...) competing (...) 'the (...) al) (...) My main point was simply that the cost to sell "true bulk" (i.e. basic pieces in the (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
    
         Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Roy Wood
     (...) through LUGs (...) maybe even (...) Sounds like a very reasonable suggestion to me. Right now, the pricing of the so-called Bulk Direct Packs is such that I really can't justify the purchase. I have a certain amount of disposable income that (...) (23 years ago, 15-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
   
        Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —James Brown
   (...) Hmm. Looks to me like 6987 only has 3 1x8 bricks, so you'd be dropping about $1200 bucks to get your hands on 25 1x8 bricks going that way. And of course, you're SOL if you don't want black ones. Me, I'd spend the $5.99. Or were you not (...) (23 years ago, 13-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
   
        Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —John Neal
    (...) The reason is that you and I have done it the hard way, so we can appreciate what a great thing the bulk service really is. We've spent $1000s to get certain parts, slowly collected onesies and twosies through auctions and parts sales (...) (23 years ago, 13-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
   
        Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Gary Istok
    (...) I know where you're coming from. Back in 1987 I bought NINETY of the 517 small basic sets just to get enough windows (180 1x4x3 yellow and 180 1x2x2 yellow) to finish my 25 story ONE SHELL PLAZA Art Deco office building back then (building is (...) (23 years ago, 13-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
   
        Re: Bulk Pricing (Interesting comparison?) —Scott Sanburn
   To all, (...) 90?!?! I know you are crazy now, Gary! ;) Seriously, I am very excited about the bulk sales, I think it is a great service, especially after having experienced similar, but not in that great of quantity. I bought a few 4561's for the (...) (23 years ago, 13-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
 

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