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OK, I just voted with my wallet - so to speak. Echoing another, it is still a minor and temporary "fix" to this issue. I suspect that TLC is somewhat adrift and lost in its focus. Too bad. The whole color issue is still minor when compared to (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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(...) Jake, I would like to thank you and the LEGO company for putting out these bulk packs as a way to acknowledge that the color change is an issue for AFOLs. There have been a lot of negative comments on the color change and anything LEGO has to (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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(...) Maybe the community should be renamed IFOL: Immature Fans Of Lego -Lars (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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(...) I think that's hitting the nail on the head. In Europe for the most part Lego still have their patent. Megablocks are available in some countries but have yet to make an impact. Megablocks and other competitors in the US are the only likely (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Yes, it was missed by the people who have the authority to make the decision that really counts, and the specifics about how that decision was announced pretty much suggest that they figure it's not such a big deal and it'll blow over in short (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) I don't know where he gets the stuff, but Morten Sorenson had a few hundred of the slopes for $2.50 apiece in his BrickLink store. Believe me, I'd love to see a bulk pack of those. And Tom--you didn't know those were out there? Surprise! LFB (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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It may be old to you, but if everyone stops complaining, TLG might get the idea that the color change doesn't matter anymore, which is far from the case. TLG has been shown to be pretty clueless the last few years, so it might take a {very long (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Certainly the bulk packs would not have happened without Jake's efforts, and I accept his assertion at face value that this is intended to be a one-time deal. However, we know for a fact that TLC is in the process of re-evaluating their entire (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) I think the point was missed. Basic bricks and plates will be easy to come by in the old colors for some time via various places -- the fact that we can't get any of the new non-basic parts is what the problem truly is. For example, I got all (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) Well stated John! I personally believe that the ranting, raving and 'frothing at the mouth' will do more to disuade the powers that be in TLC from listening to the AFOL community. I know if this (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) For something constructive AND cathartic, I suggest poetry: O Lego gray! The stuff of classic space, The stones of castle walls. The ravages of time erase Your hue, and now this blow falls. Your final days are numbered, One last batch we (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Chris Phillips wrote: (snip) (...) I think Jake responded quickly to the initial outcry, but the continued discontent is not having any added effect IMO. (...) I think the characterization of the bulk packs as "trial balloons" (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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(...) I would venture to say not many, as the change seems relatively minor. However just analyzing the delta from of color change itself may not produce the right conclusions about it's importance since you're treating it as a single factor type of (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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(...) Woah that is really weird. With shipping to Canada (and US as well) I made an identical order to yours (well just the shopping cart), and I did not get any discounts whatsoever. However, when I change the shipping to UK, I got the usual (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) I don't like the fact that old grays are discontinued either. but I've made my objection known a few times, through multiple channels, and now I'm prepared to move on. I'm having trouble grasping why some people want to write essentially the (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Well, the email I got (order confirmation) shows the following: QTY ITEM DESCRIPTION EUR AMOUNT ***...*** 1 434829 Planes X-Pod 4.99 1 1014846 Assorted Light Grey Plate 4.94 1 434629 Robots X-Pod 4.99 1 434729 Vehicles X-Pod 4.99 1 434929 (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Let's not forget that this very week we have seen evidence that our complaints have been heard and that TLC is taking action. This is no dead horse in my eyes. My hope is that the bulk parts pack are in fact a trial baloon, and that TLC may (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) I agree! I think about the only thing continuing to beat this dead and now decomposed horse is accomplishing is positioning a few people as whiners in the minds of the great many of us who have by now let the issue go. Its such a nuisance (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) While I agree, I'm completely sick of hearing everyone spout off about this whole thing. Lego has the right do what it wants with its product line. Buy it or don't buy it. There are other things way too important going on to throw a fit about (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Comment on the clones. KB, TRU, Kroger, and however man more stores that sell Lego. They all put the megablocks near or mixed in with the Lego sets. No wonder parents are confused. Can you blame them. They see the set and the color or image of (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) By your logic, I might as well take a razor blade and slash my arm because I will only lose a small percentage of my life's blood. The real question is how many people LOVE the new colors enough to increase their purchases, not how many people (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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"Christian Treczoks" <ct@braehler.com> wrote in message news:HutpDo.1ry4@lugnet.com... (...) Perhaps, but what does the VAT do? Are the labor costs for running the distribution center more? It's really hard to compare prices in two countries (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) for (...) gotten away (...) former (...) I didn't forget, that wasn't the point I was making. The point was that Coke accepted the mistake and changed it back. Why they did it is completely irrelevant. It was just an example that a company, (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Changing back would mean that LEGO management would have to admit the decision was wrong in the first place. This won't happen unless sales drop off badly. This won't happen because most LEGO is bought for kids and it's not likely that this (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) You seem to forget that Coke had real competition (Pepsi). If it weren't for lots of pissed-off people abandoning the Coke brand, Coke could have gotten away with the switch. The fact is that a viable alternative did exist, and former "loyal" (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) <snip> Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than I can step in here if necessary, but I seem to recall that changing Coke made consumers realize how much they treasured it. After introducing Classic Coke, I think they more than made up for the (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Unfortunately, LEGO doesn't have decent competition. We all know how terrible "LEGO Compatable" blocks really are. If they had real competition (like Coke had when they came out with New Coke), customers really could vote with their wallet by (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Some people compare the new color/old color issue with the New Coke/Old (Classic) Coke issue. We all know how that turned out. When people found out Coke was being replaced with New Coke, they bought all of the Old Coke they could. Some people (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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While new assortment bags are (as you say) no solution to the Color Change, they are still great sets by themselves, and hats off for the speed to implement these new sets. I'm impressed to see that TLG can actually rush things into production if (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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(...) OK, but it's not as if we had 38% sales tax here... Besides, they are made in Europe and shipped to the US, so this factor has not been taken into account yet. Yours, Christian (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Are taxes included in the Euro price? They're not in the US one. (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Yeah, that's a pretty good set for parts. The model is disappointing, though -- it's all about outside appearance and there's no clever functionality or interior design. (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Well, anything else would have been a miracle, wouldn't it? (...) Wow. "A quickly as they could". You are telling us that it takes that many months of Time To Market for a simple bulk pack? TLC really has the dinosaur problem. (...) I, too, (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Did you really believe this could be held under the hood? Do you - in contrast to what you said - still underestimate the enormous importance of the issue? It is *not* about a grey or brown or violet (or whatever other changes were planned - (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) (URL) that's *all* you buy that set for, the price is $20 apiece, but there's a lot else in that set. I really want to buy one when I get a job. . . (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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Is that a WISH, or did the 3x3 corner come in light grey and I missed it? I know some in dark grey showed on BL stores last year, but I mean *affordable* quantities. (...) -- Tom Stangl *(URL) Visual FAQ home *(URL) Visual FAQ Home (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) <snip> Ya know, colour change schmolour change. However it happened, and however limited a run it is, allow me to say a huge "Thank you!" for re-releasing my all-time favourite set: (URL) Grey Brick Pack> Ever since it got discontinued ~4-5 (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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(...) Okay -- let's show them. How fast _can_ 10,000 packs disappear? (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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Thanks for going the extra mile for the band-aid - it is better than nothing! But it makes not the slightest bit of sense that Lego is ignoring the wishes of its clientel. So, it's poll time! (URL) I take it no one paid attention to the Coca-Cola (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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(...) I believe its classic grey until such time as stock runs out. Then, if they do another production run, it would be in new grey. (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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