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(...) a) I made it obvious that it was a description of *my* idea of an ideal system. b) I pointedly described some of the problems with this. c) The first step towards making something better is to know where you want to go. If you believe that it (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.theory)
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<snipped .general from the list of newsgroups> (...) I admire your position, and agree with (both of) you on several points. However, I think you're suggesting a fix to the wrong end of the system, Frank. The fact that an auction goes to whoever (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
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(...) Wouldn't it be better than just to have said: "Wouldn't it be great if we all had enough money to buy every Lego set there ever was?" Or "wouldn't it be great to have a Lego replicator?" Then I would have known you were in the realm of (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.theory)
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(...) Okay, but remember that this is written in a sleepless, jet-lagged haze.. so please forgive any muddy thinking :) Picture a non-profiteering auction-sale system. Every member starts with a certain number of credits. Your credit level (...) (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
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followups set to .debate Richard Franks wrote: <snipped interesting, (but IMHO unworkable) scheme> (...) I disagree. We are all unique, and therefore different, and therefore unequal, practically speaking. Now, it was the intent of our Founding (...) (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) c /hansomer/handsomer/ I was NOT alleging that some of us look more like a horse drawn carriage than others do. followups to .pun (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.pun, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
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(...) Workable? Who knows - I'm not a mathematician or an economist. Desirable? Heck no. We live in the real world. In the real world the person willing AND able to spend the most for something gets it. That's the way it is, and that's the way it (...) (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
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(...) Do you think that it is unworkable because of a problem with the auction mechanics, or because too many people believe too strongly in Capitalism? (...) I agree. Equal rights implies that at some level we are equal, that we deserve the same (...) (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Real world ethics debate aside, does Lego-Distribution have to be so heavily tied to the real-world and the evolved Capitalism that we know today? If we can think of a fairer system for Lego, then why isn't that desirable? Richard (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
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If there is no benefit to sellers, who is going to participate? You can set up whatever scheme you want but unless there is motivation, you're going to have a lot of buyers but no sellers. I know I certainly would not sell for less than the most the (...) (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
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(...) This is true, which is why I think a statutory 5-10% profit should be standard on such a system. That way sellers won't lose money, but they also won't feel guilty or profiteering by making a small amount. The way the proposed system works is (...) (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
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I think you should propose this idea to TLG. I think its a great idea ;-) -- Have fun! John Auctions and Trading and More at my Lego site: (URL) & IG88888888 on AOL Richard Franks wrote in message ... (...) not (...) same (...) this (...) it (...) (...) (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You ask the same question later on, so I'll answer it there (...) I'd say, basically, any scheme, in order to be successful, needs to have buyers AND sellers. Right now, for example, SC has lots of sellers but not enough buyers. The window (...) (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe I'm just on a different wavelength here, but I don't understand this desire to disassociate one part of our lives from reality. I work hard every day in the real world. I pay for goods and services in the real world. I earn a wage in the (...) (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
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(...) I agree - and I think I answered it in: (URL) I won't waste disk space by repeating myself too much! :) Richard (25 years ago, 14-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who says 5-10% profit is even WORTH doing anything? So I'm supposed to buy $500 worth of closeout Lego after Christmas, spend literally weeks sorting it with my wife, then auction off the bulk of the parts I don't need for a lousy 5%? I'd have (...) (25 years ago, 14-Sep-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
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(...) I tell you what - you find some 4558's for retail price at some old store and I'll buy as many as you have at 10% over retail. Better yet, I'll give you a list of parts that I want and the sets they're available in, and I'll gladly pay you 10% (...) (25 years ago, 14-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sure - I don't have a problem with that. It'd make a change to make a profit! (...) If I have them and I don't want then then thats fine with me. Richard (25 years ago, 14-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It would be your choice, and no-one would pass judgement upon you either way. I don't think that both systems are mutually exclusive, and I think each has its uses. (...) The names that I know probably make profit, but I don't believe that (...) (25 years ago, 14-Sep-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
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In article <YZzdNx2DUuvsNBNRZYL...@4ax.com>, Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> writes (...) The New Lego Order - This millennium Lugnet, next millennium the world! A thousand years of fair-play! (25 years ago, 14-Sep-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
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I know some of what I'm going to say has been said before, but I say it again just to re-iterate. First: Only a small number of sets fit into the "so highly desired" that their price gets ridiculous. Very few are irreplaceable (ok, so the Metroliner (...) (25 years ago, 14-Sep-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
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In lugnet.market.theory, Frank Filz writes: <snipped lots of good points> Your arguments are pretty convincing - maybe now isn't a time in which we need a different system. Maybe we never will! But thanks to everyone who listened to my ponderings :) (...) (25 years ago, 14-Sep-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
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(...) Sorry this is a reply to a very old thread, but I ran into it and it disturbed me so much I had to reply. (...) <sarcasm> But realize, that in your system, you are only allowed to want them up to ten percent more than you paid for them. Once (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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