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Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
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Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:36:12 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Don Rogerson wrote:
   Dr. Mark Changizi claims that LEGO sets have reached a point where most of the pieces no longer fit other pieces. Sound crazy? Wait - there’s math...

I think he’s probably correct, from a certain perspective.

Essentially, LEGO has become a more diverse toy. LEGO from the 60’s and early 70’s was a VERY free-form toy. There weren’t many connection types, so all the pieces essentially worked with each other. And the same is essentially true of LEGO today ... *IF* you look at a Creator set, or a generic building bucket. But LEGO today hits a lot of different target audiences, not all of whom actually WANT that type of toy.

If you take (say) a Ninjago set that has 100 pieces, and compare it to a set from 1972 that has 100 pieces, he’s totally correct. There are almost undoubtedly MORE possibilities with the set from 1972, because the elements are more interchangeable.

So, yes! He’s totally right.... mathematically. But the answer is “so what”? LEGO connection types have increased in complexity and diversity so much that many more different types of things are possible today than they were back then. ... You just need a bigger collection to achieve those things with.

A million “random” pieces from 1972 won’t allow you to build a single pneumatic piston, or a model train that people confuse with a non-LEGO model. The diversity just wasn’t there. But a million “random” pieces from 2012 will build you a LOT of things you couldn’t before.

Look at it this way-- who the hell knows what sort of ungodly number of combinations are possible with 100 random 2x4 bricks. It’s a heck of a lot. But most of those are impractical, unaesthetic, boring creations, which all look pretty damn similar. 100 random DIFFERENT pieces with specialty bricks mixed in may create fewer *numeric* combinations, but the aesthetic and practical value of those pieces is WAY more diverse.

DaveE



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  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) Okay, yeah, from that specific perspective, I can see that he might have a point. A given set's part assortment has indeed become more specialized, and especially for some of the smaller ones it might be much more difficult to build a (...) (13 years ago, 28-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) Good point, but there have always been LEGO sets sold as specific models with instructions for building them. And sets were not marketed directly to children in the 60s and 70s, they were marketed to their parents, and parents (at least my (...) (13 years ago, 28-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)

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Dr. Mark Changizi claims that LEGO sets have reached a point where most of the pieces no longer fit other pieces. Sound crazy? Wait - there's math... (URL) I've actually had an open conversation with Dr. Changizi about this article and the original (...) (13 years ago, 26-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)

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