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  Re: New colors and other info
 
(...) Ummmmm... It's gray. It's supposed to be dull. Trying to make gray "brighter and sharper" is like trying to make orange not quite as vivid--it defeats the purpose of the color itself. (...) I imagine that S@H bulk orders in regular shades of (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
(...) Lame advice -- give up on the Lego hobby whenever you feel ready to do so, just as TLC has "given up" on the traditional colors that they have been producing for going on 20+ years! Yeah, yeah -- we're 5% of the market. Whatever. I have always (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
In lugnet.general, Jeff Szklennik wrote: SNIP oops sory about the bold-i tried to use parenthesis in brackets, but forgot to check that ftx was on. also sorry to post to self Jeff (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
(...) Wow, I had heard a rumour about this last year, and was afraid that it was true... LEGO has been going crazy with bringing out new colors over the last few years. How many of us remember when there were only 10 or 12 colors produced? I sure (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Orlando LIC set/brick information
 
(...) <SNIP> (...) ... and here is the Orlando LIC PaB selection, as of 17Nov2003 Brick 1 x 1 : TransBlue TransDarkPink Brick 1 x 2 : Black Lime Teal Brick 1 x 2 without Pillar : TransYellow Brick 1 x 3 : DarkPink Brick 1 x 4 : LightGrey MediumBlue (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.fl.orl, lugnet.market.shopping)
 
  Lego, you fool!
 
(...) Dear Lego, I don't care why you changed the gray shades (color palette reasons, or because they are more "beautiful" or because you save 1 cent for every billion parts molded - I suspect this is the REAL reason -), but the result of it is that (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
What about his first question? Are bulk packs going to be in normal gray or new gray? If LEGO is going to make bulk packs available in the new grays, then I think they should have new product numbers and be listed in the catalog and website as "new" (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: SNIP (...) Woo hoo! this made my day! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! but please don't (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
Jake, thanks for the info. It's a relief to know that the studs aren't going to change. Now, about those colors... (...) In (...) didn’t (...) Where do the "sand" colors fit in this new world of brightness and light? I would have called them far (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
In lugnet.general, Amaury Jacquot wrote: [SNIP] (...) Guess, replying to myself is probably bad practise... I just happened on a picture representing the new brown, and am apalled. there is NO way this new dark pink is going to be appropriate to (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
(...) Jake, Thank you for the information. It shows a lot of respect to the LUGNET community for LEGO to be this forthcoming with the reasoning behind these changes. I feel compelled to publicly mourn the demise of my absolute favorite LEGO color, (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
(...) I believe that most of us AFOL's will be able to adjust eventually. After all, if we all love the hobby, what choice do we really have. I for one will try not to complain to much(WAAAAAAAHHHH). But there is no way I am going to switch to MB or (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
(...) The only place that "old" gray exists is sets that are a) already produced and b) not 2004 sets. From what I've been told "old" gray is no longer being used in production. Jake --- Jake McKee Community Liason LEGO Community Development (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: <snip> (...) Yes, thanks for taking the time to fill us in and put many minds at ease. Well, admittedly I'm in the camp that doesn't like the idea of common colors becoming obsolete but it's nonetheless (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)  
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
Thanks for the info, Jake. As for the rest, I'll just quote myself from Bricklink -- the de facto (last?) source for the grey bricks... Methinks my focus is shifting away from lego hobby-wise -- the price in time, the money, the lack of the needed (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
(...) Jake, Thanks for the info, but this is simple BAD in so many ways for many AFOLs. more similar colors to sort and deal with to build something consistent will require a new large investment and time inability match old expensive parts will (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
(...) :) Worth a try, anyway. For the record, "Brucey-Wan" is the other Bruce from the San Fernando Valley. Bruce (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: [SNIP] (...) I have noted however some precision problems in the shape of the stud, it seems the logo-carrying part is separate from the vertical part, and they are not allways aligned properly See (URL) for details (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
(...) Your Jedi mind tricks won't work on me Brucey-Wan. All I'll say about this is that textual lists of leaked set info often cause more confusion than anything else. Jake --- Jake McKee Community Liason LEGO Community Development (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
Hello Jake, Thanks for your detailed answer on this hot topic! (...) (great relief sigh!) - though I really doubted that LEGO could modify such a cornerstone of the building ;o) (...) It would be really great if the new colors came with some (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
Jake, Thank you for the quick reply. I am glad to hear about the studs issue, not so glad to hear about the color changes, but I'm sure you've heard much on this issue. One question--are current bulk parts at S@H in the "old" grays or the "new" (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
(...) From what I understand, anything rolling off the line from now on (possible exceptions from previous post excluded) would be in the new colors. (...) Jake --- Jake McKee Community Liason LEGO Community Development (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
First off thanks for the info. (...) Good to know. (...) I personally find this odd. I would think that for everything except "metal" objects the old colors would be better. Especially for landscapes, castles, and buildings. Now I can see spaceships (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
<snip> (...) Thanks for the info, Jake. If all new sets are produced with new colors, does that mean that any future Legends sets will use the new colors? I'm assuming it does. For some reason, I can't really get excited about the fact that future (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: (snip) (...) (snip) Thanks, Jake, for the quick response to our hysteria;-) This is a great example of TLC's desire to be open to AFOL concerns and questions. I especially appreciate the willingness on TLC's part to (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: New colors and other info
 
In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: <snip> (...) Thanks for checking into this, Jake, and thanks for the info! Take care, Dave K (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  New colors and other info
 
Wow, it’s been a busy couple of days on LUGNET! My inbox, phone, and Instant Messenger have been going nuts with questions! There have been a great many posts, speculations, comments, and feedback about two different issues. We wanted to make sure (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.announce, FTX) !! 
 
  Re: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
 
(...) When Pick-A-Brick first premiered at LEGOLAND and people were estimating price per pieces, there was a link to a list of LEGO weights that Lutz Ulhmann had put together. We're going to DL next month and I wondered whether we should try and fit (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.shopping)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) While I agree with this, what keeps adults buying Lego instead of the cheaper clones which have appealing set designs than when we were kids? The answer is brand loyalty. The parents played with Lego when they were kids, not MegaBlocks. These (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Lego now making Mega Bloks colors (was Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match...)
 
(...) Now I haven't actually seen the new grey colors in person yet but based on the pictures it looks like LEGO is now matching their light and dark grey colors to the ones Mega Bloks uses. Now if the new colors are in addition to the existing (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  Re: An Idea About The (Now) Old Colors.....
 
I agree 100% with Mark. C'mon TLC, throw us a bone on this one. Give us back the greys and keep the basic colors alive! Replacing colors on us is a huge mistake. -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Well, at least LEGO made the top 10 for boys...
 
(URL) 10 'hottest toys' for Christmas this year... LEGO came in 10th for sales for presents for boys. I'd buy LEGO sets as a present for my nephews over anything else on the list, but then again, I wasn't polled :) Dave K (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) I thought the holes in the minifig heads were for safety reasons, to prevent choking if a child were to attempt to swallow them. I think I saw that mentioned in a LEGO book somewhere... C (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
 
(...) Not me! I'd go nutz counting that many plates(or blocks)! But as Chris suggested, the smaller the part the better deal the volume theory becomes. I have a cup full of 1x4 plates that is heavier than a cup of 2x4's. I also have cup almost full (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.shopping)
 
  WARNING from PAYPAL
 
I found this story on Yahoo. A new virus hase reared its ugly head. Read about it here. (URL) Weiser (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: more photos of new colors
 
(...) After going though my buttloads of light grey I recognize my "very old" light grey (the "engine oil" shown) from my "current" ones bought in new condition (SAH, BL, sets) the last decade or so. That light grey plate ("new" version) looks much (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
 
(...) Chris Yes it is, it works out to about $0.14 per 2x4, same as S@H. Weight does work better and better then S@H retail, the smaller the piece is. If someone can tell me how many 1x1 plates fit in the small and large cups, I would like to (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.shopping)
 
  Re: The Real Reason Why LEGO Is So Popular
 
(...) Day..." At least, that's from the '70's... If there was a slogan before that, I don't know it :) I seem to recall commercials, and there's a tune to it, but I don't remember the rest... Dave K (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Not that kids can't put them together, but to make it easier--just like holes in the minifig heads made them easier to pull off and slots in the technic pins made them easier to pull out. Making a change to make something easier for the user (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) I am no expert on this aspect, but I don't think the logic is that sound here. I recall an article in a train magazine noting the 'graying' of the hobby. They worried that the average age of subscriber was like 56yrs old. I don't think (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
 
(...) I guess in an ideal world I want to buy small parts by volume and large ones by weight,then. :-) (ideal for us I mean) But if you only get 100 2x4s for 13 USD, that's 13 cents a brick. That's way over my threshold for 2x4s, a common part, (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.shopping)
 
  Re: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
 
(...) So if my math is correct (and it frequently isn't) it is still less expensive to simply scoop 100 loose 2x4's into a cup for $12.95 than it is to pay by weight for the same 100 2x4's. And the same volume presumably only gets heavier when (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.shopping)
 
  Re: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
 
(...) ~204 2x4's to the pound which is $28.00 at LLCA......... = 18.95 for 138...... Thanx, Mark<< WOW! Thanks Mark. Now I know that the 10 minutes spent packing the cup is well worth while. We get 138 2x4's for 50% less than that AND there is room (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.shopping)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
Aside from the perspectives already mentioned, two other issues worry me: 1 Replacing or augmenting existing colors with slightly different colors will cause confusion and bad publicity. - We will have a harder time sorting out pieces and need more (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
 
(...) minutes of your time to pack an extra 30-40 bricks?<< Mike You are correct, it is exactly a money vs. time deal and here is my thinking. I am 40 minutes from the Woodfield store. I could just drop my 100 or so 2x4 bricks in each of 3 cups and (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.shopping)
 
  Re: The Real Reason Why LEGO Is So Popular
 
(...) And while we're at it, "Just Imagine...." was the old slogan :) What's the new one? "Play on"? (URL) Best regards, /Tobbe (URL) (remove SPAM when e-mailing) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  An Idea About The (Now) Old Colors.....
 
Dear Lego As I sit here and hope for a "This is why we did it" post from somebody I thought of this..... Keep the old colors in production and offer them at S@H bulk sales and the PAB locations. I see no reason Lego could not offer the old light and (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)  
 
  Re: Color change official/permenant WAS Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) To quote Swiper Fox: Awww MAN! (Why yes, my sister *does* have small children, why do you ask?) Well, not much chance of me stopping building, but it does put a serious kink in my plans to build a life-size model of the Death Star in dark grey (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  RE: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
 
(...) ~204 2x4's to the pound which is $28.00 at LLCA......... = 18.95 for 138...... Thanx, Mark (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.shopping)
 
  Re: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
 
"Jeff Reuland" <texmexsu1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:HoJ3Fp.CIA@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) choice (...) [ ... snipped ... ] I think this comes down to a money vs. time decision. Is it worth 10-15 minutes of your time to pack an (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.shopping)
 
  Color change official/permenant WAS Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
I saw this posted by 'guybrush' on the FBTB forums: "I've started a new topic so that this one can be free of doubt, wait and see type comments, etc. I have confirmation in my inbox this morning. I'm not sure yet if the person wants to be quoted or (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  Re: more photos of new colors
 
(...) Actually this contrast almost suggests to me that it's not a replacement, but a new color. It's such a drastic difference. Hmm, reminds me of some gun barrels I've seen that have a "blued" finish. The first thing I thought of when I saw that (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
 
(...) say that I prefer the pay-by-weight approach used at Legoland. I want to spend my time choosing my bricks, not spend hours trying to pack them into milkshake containers :-(<< I kind of agree that it is a little time consuming to do but we have (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.shopping)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) So this microscopic change to the studs makes them easier to assemble? Worse yet, this suggests that today's kids are not as dexterous as we were 25 or 30 years ago? This is really hard to believe. Any average 6 year-old can use their superior (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Right--I don't agree with that either. It's not a manufacturing issue or a cost-saving issue, it's a marketing thing probably based on ease of assembly (if it's not a mistake, which I'm still willing to believe based on my Mos Eisley (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Kid fans of LEGO eventually grow up... and they either become adult fans of LEGO, pass them on to their kids (in which case not as much LEGO is bought for the successive generation, as there is already ample supply), sell them via bricklink, (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Spare parts - or - Harry Parter part duex (was: Castle Nightmare)
 
(...) sniiiip. (...) Just wanted to say this whole post was very well done, Anthony! I couldn't have said it better. -Tim (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: more photos of new colors
 
(...) Hey All, After not sleeping last night due to being pissed off about this, I went out today and bought myself the mini star destroyer just to see what I was getting upset about. Upon opening the set I noticed the different colors and put them (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) I totally agree. What I didn't agree with was the logic being used to suggest why these changes were being made. I was trying to express my disbelief that changes were happening because parts were getting too difficult to manufacture. If these (...) (22 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Mark... they're serious. Speaking as someone who used to share your opinion it's important to note that this argument has come up many times in the past. The general opinion has always ended up that this statement is correct. (...) It might be (...) (22 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)  
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Same reasoning why they don't cater to the Macintosh with their computer products - too small an audience. Mark (22 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Actually, Brad Justus and Jake McKee have always told us that they believe the adult LEGO buyers to make up less than 5% of the retail market. We AFOL's think it's a bit higher, but not much. A good way to put it into perspective is this: go (...) (22 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Yes, he's serious. By "not big enough", if memory is serving me correctly (too lazy to go digging through Lugnet's back catalogue of conversations), they mean "less than 5% of our sales volume" 95% of the Lego that leaves the shelves ends up (...) (22 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
 
Having now visited both a Lego Imagination Centre and a Legoland, I have to say that I prefer the pay-by-weight approach used at Legoland. I want to spend my time choosing my bricks, not spend hours trying to pack them into milkshake containers :-( (...) (22 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.shopping)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Are you serious??? If by "big enough" they mean more than 50% of the actual head-count, they may be right... but I'd bet anything that if they looked at the bottom line, how much money gets spent, they'd find that more is spent annually on (...) (22 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Color me.. disappointed. I think it's kind of entertaining that several folks have counseled either a 'wait and see' approach or that they personally were just going to sit back and see how it pans out. Honestly, what choice do we have? TLC (...) (22 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  Re: The first MOC (not my own) that I see in person, Eric Harshbarger's Crayons
 
Hi all, I'll follow up George's post by pointing to my webpage I just typed up about the weekend: (URL) correction: Alphabet Blocks and Checkers were this year's inductees to the Hall of Fame (the toys George mentions were already in from previous (...) (22 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Lego has CONSTANTLY been perfecting the designs of pieces. Witness the hole in the minifig head; the slots in the sides of the Technic pin; etc., etc., etc. The camfering is another step in the ongoing development of product, though for what (...) (22 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  The first MOC (not my own) that I see in person, Eric Harshbarger's Crayons
 
Hello, By the time everything else in my life is taken care, I have precious little time left for lucny meetings, or brickfests, or meeting any other AFOLs. But, this weekend it worked out. Saturday, Mary (my wife) wanted time to clean up the house, (...) (22 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Cynthia, this is almost certainly aging. Any collection of gray bricks going that far back will have variations from contact with UV light. (I have not checked vs unopened sets.) White bricks are the worst agers. There is also such a thing as (...) (22 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
I just bought the 2004 Mos Eisley Cantina this afternoon (#4501), and was disappointed to find that this set also has the new off colors. It wasn't just the 2 grays either; brown is a lighter shade now. The dark red, verdigris (sometimes called (...) (22 years ago, 17-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: New Snowspeeder uses new grays (was: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!)
 
(...) Entirely the new colors (the set is largely white, recall). That's to be expected, I think, the light grays in particular are very close and there's really no reason to ship both of them in the same set. Kevin (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Well, I have no problem with those that build in whatever way they choose at all -- in my view, playing and building is the point of it all. I think we're on the same page there. I also don't have a problem with additions to the color line, (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  Re: New Snowspeeder uses new grays (was: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!)
 
(...) hi, quick q: does it use the new greys exclusively, or in conjunction with the old greys? thanks! hoping its the former... I can't wait to get some new grey! (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Richard, With no offense intended, this sounds as if those builders out there who are "stuck" with the bricks they have (for whatever reasons) just can't be as good at MOC-ing as those who can buy the bricks they need to make the "refined" (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Wouldn't you then also surmise that you'd have to round off the edges of the plates/bricks too? I just can't imagine that after 40+ years the cylindrical stud with the more or less flat top has suddenly become difficult to manufacture. Is the (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
Just to add my humble 2 cents here, I bought a used gamma-V (6891) from brick link recently, and when I was putting it together, I was disappointed to see at least 2 different greys which didn't quite match each other. I assumed the seller had (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) The chamfering could also help the finished piece get out of the mold faster/easier, maybe the plates got stuck in the machine? -- Anders Isaksson, Sweden BlockCAD: (2 URLs) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) This article is a quite interesting read. What jumped out at me was the mention that different colors of ABS have different specific gravities (within a small overall range). I wonder if the saline solution would have a detrimental effect on (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad, lugnet.market.theory)
 
  Re: New York and New Jersey LEGO Stores Now Open!
 
(...) That's a good point, everybody is yellow in a LEGO Brand Store. ;) I think that standing under that yellow brick for so long actually makes you start seeing everything blend into the color yellow. It must be a tactic used by TLC to make guests (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.us.gardenslug, lugnet.loc.us.nj, lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) <snip> Falling in the wait and see camp, I do wonder, how valid are the rumors of color Additional colors (as already mentioned) do lead to neat ideas of having 4 grays to work with. But if the original LT and DK grays are being replaced I (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  How close is too close? (was: Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!)
 
(...) I really don't like the new dark grey very much, and I finally figured out why. Well, there are a few reasons, one of course relating to the fact that I've become a bit notorious for my consumption of that particular color. But it's a bit more (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  New Snowspeeder uses new grays (was: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!)
 
(...) To your average 8 year olds? (...) I think that's your decision. I picked up the new Snowspeeder today. It uses the new grays (both of them). I think the new dark gray is a fantastic color. (...) No worries. They will be widely available in (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.starwars, FTX)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) replying to myself.. the new gray is not very earthy. I tried to add the 2x2 tiles to a landscape which has a lot of gray. The new gray looks very antiseptic. How appropriate for a Star Destroyer. It looks like the float on newly poured (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) With all the new coloring products coming on the market, it would be strange if Lego could not get exactly what it wanted in a color. Having played with them now, I think the new colors are great. (...) Having purchased said SW minis, I did (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Deep breath, count to 10. Was: Fwd from a builder
 
Relax, then rush out and get some of these new colors, and look at them side by side with your old colors. The grays are different. I like them. There is no chance I will confuse them when they are mixed with the old. Remember the excitement when (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  Re: The Real Reason Why LEGO Is So Popular
 
(...) Actually that wasn't me that said it but a someone from the semi-recent film 'Gods and Generals'. Glad you like it, though. :) (...) Oops, yes, of course. Don't know what I was thinking. I only remembered California and Billund. Thanks for the (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: The Real Reason Why LEGO Is So Popular
 
(...) Thank you, and you're welcome. I haven't gotten any response on it the other place I posted it so I'm glad to get some feedback here. I'm glad you enjoyed it. :) ~Mike (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Bricks Magazine?
 
(...) The magazine is defunct, and you and many others are out your money. Sorry to be the one to bear the bad news:-( JOHN (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)  
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Two questions: a) At what point in history did LEGO bricks become so difficult to assemble that a fundamental change was required to the very mechanism upon which this construction system was based? b) If you are already having difficulties (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) That's my guess about what's happening. Chamfering would make parts somewhat easier to assemble (just like in carpentry, the dowels for a dowel joint are chamfered for easier insertion) at a cost of some gripping. I'll have to buy some of (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
"Ray Sanders" <rsanders@svic.net> wrote in message news:HoF20M.21xM@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ...] (...) then see (...) Good points. I decided to go to TRU and buy the 4492 to see what all of the fuss was about. There is no doubt that the (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) I have 3 of the new Star Wars Mini sets (Mini ISD, AT-TE, and Imperial Shuttle), and they have the 'different' grey. The new X-Wing, though, has the 'old' grey. (...) So far, it appears to be the Star Wars sets. (...) I did 3, and others on (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  Bricks Magazine?
 
Anyone know how to get a hold of someone from Bricks Magazine? I just noticed the paypal receipt in my saved mail and realized I've never gotten a copy :( Regina (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)  
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) I did some goolging and found this interesting page. (URL) LEGO has been spending serious bucks into the plastics recycling business. Now, the way I see it, if LEGO is putting all this money into this then I'd think they did some serious (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Spare parts - or - Harry Parter part duex (was: Castle Nightmare)
 
(...) Hi Anthony, You have made some good points there. Well thought out. I must say I may have been a little overemotional when I wrote that post. Lego needs to be the one supplying the bricks, with juniorization and pillar-brick construction, they (...) (22 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Deep breath, count to 10. Was: Fwd from a builder
 
(...) even if its true that the greys are being changed, this is not the first time or the last during Lego's long heritage of producing building blocks that a change has been made. I would imagine that if the internet had been around when they (...) (22 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  Re: The Real Reason Why LEGO Is So Popular
 
(...) Right on brother. The mighty Brick Shaman went on to say: "Do it fast, do it slow, do it lovely, do it ugly - it's all the same to me." is the centre of LEGO!* M. Thorn Sweetness. However I woudn't be your bro if I didn't hook you up on this (...) (22 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) Everyone should take a deep deep breath and answer the following questions... How many sets have these 'new' colors been seen in ? How many themes have these 'new' colors been seen in ? How many 2004 sets have been examined to determine if (...) (22 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)  
 
  Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
 
(...) I wonder if some of the older dyes have become either unobtainable or have been outlawed in Europe. Some of the older dyes, even food colourings, are now deemed harmful. TLC may not have any choice in the matter. As far as rounded edges on (...) (22 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)


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