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Re: Fwd from a builder: Colors don't match, among other things!
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In lugnet.general, Joe Meno wrote:
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Hi all,
This is from a friend of mine, Gareth Bowler:
Got into my first 2004 sets today; the MINI star destroyer set, and
promptly scrapped them for parts, only to find, to my shock and dismay,
that the colors dont match. Further more, the studs are rounded, making
connections significantly weaker, and the parts overall just have a cheaper
feel to them.
The two parts labelled old are both from 2003 sets, and have never had a
chance to yellow or been exposed to sunlight. The photo was not altered in
any way and is the raw output from my scanner.
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Color me.. disappointed.
I think its kind of entertaining that several folks have counseled either a
wait and see approach or that they personally were just going to sit back and
see how it pans out. Honestly, what choice do we have? TLC has said on
numerous occaisons that AFOLs are just not a big enough market segment. Given
that, then we shouldnt factor into this decision much if at all. If we write
letters or whatever.. seems unlikely we will get an answer (hopefully Im wrong
on that).
Im not convinced that the color change or chamfering is based on anything other
than economics. Im cant see why tweaking colors will sell more lego to the
8yr old boy market segment. Perhaps the chamfering (if its there) shaves
1/1000 of the weight of the brick (stretching here).. ? Saved weight means less
plastic and saves money?
In terms of color, perhaps they are trying to make the colors more stable or
perhaps they subcontracted and thats how they came out. It seems they have had
other subcontracting problems such as the train wheels. However, someone posted
that they had word from an insider that it was intentional.. and there was more
to come... that was the most ominous/worrisome non-information on this topic!
Perhaps cheaper dies or cheaper process that affects the color are the cause?
I just have to believe its direct production ecnomics more than anything else.
On a side note, I came across some mega blocks I had from the early 1990s.
This set had light yellow, dark red and navy blue. To my knowledge TLC only
introduced these in fairly recent times. Is that true? Or were those out by
TLC even at that time?
I concur with the sentiment that the two grays are colors they really should not
mess with. A lighter brown.. okay, I often desire a color between tan and
brown. I would much rather see them just transition the use of the basic colros
to alternate if color shifting is a goal of some kind -- like light yellow for
regular yellow. It is interesting that sets like knockturn alley and privets
drive have almost none of the historic basic lego colors in them.
Even if this is some short term glitch in the subcontracting or whatever, then
there is still the hassle that peeron and bricklink will probably need to
address this. Also, knowing what you are getting on ebay is a hassle already,
is it faded, is it light or dark etc. some of the images are horrible.
If someone could get a solid answer out of lego -- seems thats all we can try
for at this point.
Ken
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| Hi all, This is from a friend of mine, Gareth Bowler: Got into my first 2004 sets today; the MINI star destroyer set, and promptly scrapped them for parts, only to find, to my shock and dismay, that the colors don't match. Further more, the studs (...) (21 years ago, 15-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX) !!
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