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| | | I agree with everything said here Eric, (...) Truth be told, I only saw this recently, a few weeks ago, I meant to pass on my congrats through e-mail but forgot completely, sorry. :-( (...) Amen! when I was just getting started with showing off my (...) (23 years ago, 3-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Mladen Pejic
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| | | | Heh! I agree with both of you guys! BTW Larry, who made you LUGNET's policeman? You just wish you had as much creativity and talent as Eric. :-P (...) (23 years ago, 3-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | (...) I thought it was up to each member of a group to make the group better. Maybe the better question is why don't you contribute that way? (...) I wish I were as creative as either Eric or Larry. But so the hell what? What was your goal in such a (...) (23 years ago, 3-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Mladen Pejic
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| | | | (...) No thanks, I'd rather devote my time to building. (...) What (...) Yup! (...) Guess so. (...) :-P (...) Mladen Pejic, over and out! (URL) (23 years ago, 3-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) No one. See (URL) for some further thoughts on this. (...) This is actually pretty good advice. If only it were true that, in your case, building (and posting about your MOCs in a gracious way) was the sum total of your contributions here at (...) (23 years ago, 3-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Dave Johann
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| | | | (...) Then perhaps you should take your own advice, Larry. Some of us would rather spend our time building, congratulating others on their new creations, and offering help to those who ask for it rather than tearing down others here at LUGNET. (...) (23 years ago, 4-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) Who made you the judge of what topic is closed and what topic isn't? Topics stop being posted about because all the participants stop. (...) So "mine mine mine, you can't post that design without crediting me" is helpful? I'll keep that in (...) (23 years ago, 4-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Geordan Hankinson
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| | | | | (...) Well Mladen, I'm going for it, ;-) (...) Maybe he didn't want the topic to be posted to LUGNET, as to save bandwidth, I'm sure you agree? and I don't believe he CLOSED the topic, as just moved it to e-mail, :-) (...) I'll back that up too, :-) (...) (23 years ago, 4-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) "Topic Closed." means "move it to email", then? Thanks for the tip. (23 years ago, 4-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Geordan Hankinson
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| | | | | | (...) He said "topic closed," but also said that replies should be sent to his e-mail, so I would assume that that meant the topic was closed on LUGNET, but was meant to continue through e-mail. :-) -Geordan- (23 years ago, 4-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Tom Inosanto
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| | | | | | And who said flame wars were dead? Granted this may not big a huge flame war, but still. ~my thoughts~ Ok, I agree with Larry - I think he has very valid points and good intentions. I do not know if people just do not get what he is trying to say, (...) (23 years ago, 4-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Dan Boger
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| | | | | | | (...) has (...) this (...) I think you missed the point of what (most) people posted about. They're not talking on a change in the last few months, but in a change over the past 3-5 years! I doubt the email/nntp authuntication had that kind of (...) (23 years ago, 4-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Dave Johann
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| | | | | | (...) Agreed (...) No grudges, I just prefer to be spoken with rather than spoken to. I'm certain that others around here would prefer that as well. (...) I have positive view about Larry most of the time. Sometimes he manages to come across as (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Mladen Pejic
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| | | | | (...) Hey Larry, I've stop that kind of behaviour & attitude. The difference between you and me is that I can actually learn from my mistakes. Go back to posting your LP spam now, and annoying Scott, 'cause I'm getting sick of you. Mladen Pejic, (...) (23 years ago, 4-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | (...) Hey, I'm sick of him too. :) Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Dave Johann
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| | | | | (...) No one made me the judge of anything. I was testing to see if you had the willpower to let the discussion drop. I have my answer. (...) Hmmm...looks like you don't really read Mladen's posts after all. I might as well talk to the wall if this (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Well, let's see. Mladen slagged Amy. I called him on it but then let his comebacks insults go. Mladen called me LUGNET's policeman. In another thread, I discussed why people who care about LUGNET need to get actively involved in helping grow (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Mladen Pejic
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| | | | | | | (...) Well, you slagged Eric too. You just have to prove that you are right, don't you Larry? You just couldn't leave Amy's first message to Eric alone, could you? You always have to add your two cents... Well, this is what it got you. (...) Nah, I (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | (...) Are you really saying you think he is? Or just that you think he thinks he is? (...) :-o (...) I agree with Larry that this is an "important discussion". What I can't understand is why it is in this group? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: I miss the old LUGNET... —Dave Johann
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| | | | | | | (...) Larry, getting actively involved is something many of us try to do, Mladnen included. Unfortunately, sometimes helping comes across as criticism, no matter how hard we try to make it not look like that. I've recently been on that side of (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | mine mine mine (was Re: I miss the old LUGNET...) —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) Forgive me if I am wrong Larry, but do you not copyright your designs? How different is that from your caricature of Mladen?? Scott A (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: mine mine mine (was Re: I miss the old LUGNET...) —Ross Crawford
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| | | | (...) The differences I see are: 1. Larry doesn't make his design(s) public, and 2. Larry has never asked anyone for credit, claiming they've used his design(s). At least not publicly on Lugnet, AFAIK. ROSCO (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: mine mine mine (was Re: I miss the old LUGNET...) —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) Really? (...) That is not the point. Both Larry and Mladen claim ownership of their designs, but neither wishes to share without credit. It is that simple. Larry: ==+== ...feel some sense of ownership (the same way any designer does) in the (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: mine mine mine (was Re: I miss the old LUGNET...) —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | (...) I agree completely with Scott. It is reasonable in general to protect ones rights to IP. The manner in which various people do this is another matter entirely. Chris (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: mine mine mine (was Re: I miss the old LUGNET...) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) Yes. IIRC, the posts of mine that Scott cited (without giving the URL, for some reason) were in support of the notion while somewhat less (quite a bit less) supportive of the manner in which that notion was voiced by some. (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: mine mine mine (was Re: I miss the old LUGNET...) —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) No problem: (URL)were in support of the notion while somewhat less (quite a bit (...) But you both have expressed the "mine mine mine" view... in my view. No big deal. Scott A (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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