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Re: Brad Justus is real
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Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:30:12 GMT
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Jasper Janssen <jasper@janssen.dynip.com> wrote:
> Point 1, he uses IE on Windows NT (if we can believe the first
> message, at least). So no remote breaking in. Which leaves physical
> access - which is IMHO rather unlikely.
Why not? BO2K runs on Windows NT and Win2000 boxes. (The new version of
Netbus does too, but I'm not sure if that's publicly available yet.)
> It is possible to _say_ your packet comes from somewhere it doesn't.
> However, the packet's routing information will _still_ contain the
> real IP address.
> You need full-duplex comms to use SMTP, UUCP, HTTP, or NNTP.
But if you anticipate what packets the remote side will return, you can
generate the appropriate responses. Admittedly, very difficult to do when
you're doing something complicated, but within the realm of possibility.
And, routing information may be in the packets, but it doesn't get logged,
so that's no help.
--
Matthew Miller ---> mattdm@mattdm.org
Quotes 'R' Us ---> http://quotes-r-us.org/
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| Moving this to .debate, for lack of lugnet.off-topic.comp.risks. (...) BO isn't cracking - it's carelessness on the part of the crackee. Anyone can distribute happy99.exe, but breaking root on an up-to-CERT unix box is something very few can do. (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Point 1, he uses IE on Windows NT (if we can believe the first message, at least). So no remote breaking in. Which leaves physical access - which is IMHO rather unlikely. (...) Break into a high-security FreeBSD box? Highly unlikely, (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
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