Dear LEGO : 2799


Dear LEGO / 2799

What would it take? —Dave Schuler

With the recent Microsoft announcement, a number of us have expressed opinions of varying negativity for reasons ranging from the well-founded to the kneejerk. Similarly, following the implementation of the bulk sale service, quite a few people (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

Re: What would it take? —Eric Joslin

(...) Here's where I disagree with you- I definitely feel that we are better off LEGO-wise than we were even as recently as, say, 1998 or 1999. The sets are better, with far less juniorization; we have bulk packs available, and more on the way; we (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

Re: What would it take? —Tim Courtney

(...) I see your frustration, Dave!, and I'm sure others feel the same way. We've seen a lot of negative reactions to stuff LEGO is or isn't doing. I know they're trying their best to do their job and to work with us, and I _know_ there is a lot (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

Re: What would it take? —Kevin Zwicker

In lugnet.dear-lego, Dave Schuler writes: <snip> (...) <Snip> I think alot of us are still bitter over the introduction of juniorisation nad the change in marketing strategy. I think for many, it came as a total surprise. Most of us grew up during (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

Re: What would it take? —Dave Schuler

(...) This is a good point. Folks are responding, I think, not out of beligerence or because they're mean people, but rather because they feel strongly about the hobby and have certain ideals they'd like to see advanced. (...) That is a *great* (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

Re: What would it take? —Tony Kilaras

(...) We (...) good (...) the (...) every (...) The "sets" Lego introduced were completely irrelevant to my collection. I have so much money to spend. If Lego puts out good stuff, I buy that. Otherwise, I buy DACTA and used Lego. It ebbs and flows. (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

Re: What would it take? —Amy Hughes

(...) Hey, I resemble that remark :-) Actually, my groan isn't knee-jerk at all. I've been programming computers since about the time Microsoft bought MS-DOS and then foisted it upon the world. They got where they are on IBM's name, not their own, (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

Re: What would it take? —Dave Schuler

(...) !! I wasn't singling you out, and I'm sorry if I seemed to be. For my interests, Microsoft is fully suited to my needs, so I don't have any reason to check out another OS. If my needs change, perhaps I'll shop around, but until that time (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

zactly —Paul Hartzog

hooray Amy, well said. I too have been comptering since the mid70s and abhor mediocrity in all of its nasty nasty forms. specialized toys are faddish and never last, while traditional Lego, by being merely a component, can be reused for ever to (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

Re: zactly —Timothy D. Freshly

Paul Hartzog <panarchy23@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:G72I40.IGJ@lugnet.com... [snip] (...) It seems to me that the loss of market share is caused primarily by three things: (1) the expansion of Lego into "non-brick" products; (2) divergence (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

Re: zactly —Mike Timm

(...) I feel I need to point this out, LEGO has *ALREADY* changed, I want it to change MORE, preferably towards the style of sets that they used to make. If that's not possible, then towards quality designed sets that are overly juniorized. I can (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego)

Re: zactly —Thomas Main

(...) <snip> (...) The world continues to change. I work at a university where some of the buildings were built brick by brick by masons who were most likely proud of their work and effort. There are cornerstones on some of them with the date of (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

Re: zactly —Timothy D. Freshly

Thomas Main <main@appstate.edu> wrote in message news:3A646922.9F1517...ate.edu... (...) assumption (...) child. (...) turned (...) to (...) who (...) all of (...) consumer (I (...) loyal (...) the (...) than (...) Thomas: Well said. I'm not (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

Re: zactly —Andy Lynch

Thomas, Interesting way to look at this, it really got me thinking. Thanks for posting your thoughts on this. -Andy Lynch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Main" <main@appstate.edu> (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

Re: What would it take? —Ronald Vallenduuk

Well spoken! (do you write for something published?) I've only been in computer since mid-eighties, with dark ages for years after Amiga died.... And I hate MS as well. Problem is that like so many others I'm stuck with them because of the company I (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

VERY well said Duq —Paul Hartzog

all of your post was so true, so true, but not changing the world just because its hard? that's an easy road to take. remember yoda? the dark side is easier, more seductive. If humans are going to have anything more than a 2 second attention span (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

Re: What would it take? —Tim Culberson

No. TLC wants to make money. If a partnership with Microsoft (which as myself and obviously some others agree, is a vile and worthless armpit of a company) will help TLC, then they will form a partnership with Microsoft. If diversifying their (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

Re: What would it take? —Tony Kilaras

"Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:G72BJq.L6y@lugnet.com... (...) to (...) a (...) would (...) deal (...) at (...) I'm glad you brought this up. I agree most of what you're saying here. This is, BY FAR, the most significant (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)

Re: What would it take? —Tim Culberson

(...) Do you really think that this is the way TLG thinks? Do you really think TLG will "turn off" completely because we complain too much? I think not - I think they will be looking at our complaints and going "if this is what will make them give (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)