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| | | | | Re: LoTR: The Two "Towels" —Matt Hein
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| | | | | (...) *if implied that the protagonist fights nine enemies at once* Sorry to say, but how fictitious can it get? One person to fend off against nine opponents single handedly, and still miraculously emerge prevalent? Sounds deftly similar to the (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | | Re: LoTR: The Two "Towels" —Erik Olson
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| | | | | | | (...) But it's only five antagonists, and they are sort of blind due to the color process which separates them from the real world so they really only have eyes for nabbing Frodo on the ground. While Aragorn is on home ground, has a big sword and a (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LoTR: The Two "Towels" —Matt Hein
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| | | | | | | | (...) Okay, let me get this straight. This -almighty- sauron sends out five robed people, that he knows cannot see well, and consequently wouldn't make for very good attack forces. Anyway, he sends them out to kill frodo, so they float around nearly (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LoTR: The Two "Towels" —Erik Olson
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| | | | | | | | Okay, you just need to read the book and get it firsthand. The Ringwraiths are sort of blind because they're dead. Well undead to be precise. They ride regular horses which are raised from colts in the presence of evil so they're not scared of evil (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | | Re: LoTR: The Two "Towels" —Allan Bedford
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| | | | | | | (...) Quite a bit. That's why they call it fiction. ;) (...) While the Black Riders may appear weak or useless on some levels, don't forget that they are strong in other areas. They can almost 'smell' the ring... and the power that it carries. Not (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | | Re: LoTR: The Two "Towels" —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) Did you mean "it", not "if"? And which, the book or the movie? The answer would be no and neither, since both clearly indicate five. (...) He gets the drop on them while their attention is focused on Frodo. And as explained, they were simply (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | Re: LoTR: The Two "Towels" —David Eaton
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| | | | (...) From the book: ---...--- [Strider speaking:] 'Let us take this wood that is set ready for the fire as a sign. There is little shelter or defence here, but fire shall serve for both. Sauron can put fire to his evil uses, as he can all things, (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | Re: LoTR: The Two "Towels" —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | (...) Yup, pretty much as I said (I got to butcher The Fellowship of the Ring long before Jackson did, but I claim - rightly or wrongly - the excuse that a computer game requires more liberties than a movie). ;-) (...) Walked off? "Pardon me, you (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | Re: LoTR: The Two "Towels" —David Eaton
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| | | | | (...) I'll agree on the computer game part-- those almost always need LOTS of liberties. Unless you want a boring game... (...) I guess the beauty of the book is that it doesn't actually describe the scene. In my mind, I see Strider leaping out, (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | | Re: LoTR: The Two "Towels" —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) I think a little more active defense of Frodo is implied, and Aragorn already stated that the Nazgul don't like fire, but surely they gave ground quickly because they felt they could afford to be patient. At the same time, I rather imagine (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LoTR: The Two "Towels" —David Eaton
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| | | | | | (...) Yeah, in the book, it's really the only acknowledged 'harm' that comes to the Nazgul in the scene-- the one swipe that Frodo takes at them. In the movie, it's all Aragorn... (...) That's my guess as well. It was a great chance for Jackson to (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LoTR: The Two "Towels" —Matt Hein
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| | | | | | (...) Anyway, lots of geeky conversation. How would everyone like to hear my intrepretation of it? Okay, here goes. *this is meant for humorous purpose only* So, anyway, after chapter twelve, we find out that Frodo used to be a proprietor an (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | Re: LoTR: The Two "Towels" —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) If the Nine are as bad as everyone fears, then why would anything short of Sauron's will stop them from grabbing the Ring while they had the chance? At the end of the scene in the book I was left with the sense that they left solely so that (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | | Re: LoTR: The Two "Towels" —David Eaton
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| | | | | | (...) I generally suspect that Aragorn makes the Wraiths nervous. He's sort of magical in his own right, and if he wielded the Ring himself, there might be a chance that he *COULD* defeat the Nazgul. Plus the fire made them nervous. Plus the fact (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LoTR: The Two "Towels" —Josh Wedin
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| | | | | | Hey All, As much as I love the Lord of the Rings, Tolkien, etc. shouldn't this discussion be in the off-topic newsgroup? Josh (21 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | The good, the bad and the ring (WAS: LoTR: The Two "Towers") —Allan Bedford
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| | | | (...) Just curious. Was this a throw-away comment, or did you really find the visuals to be that bad? And were there particular continuity errors you noticed? After watching hours of the behind-the-scenes stuff, and knowing how they did it (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | Re: The good, the bad and the ring (WAS: LoTR: The Two "Towers") —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | (...) As in he took the cheap route by going for a splashy combat sequence. The continuity problem is that several wraiths were torched but there they were in the next sequence riding hell-for-leather for the ford none the worse for their (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | Hear! Hear! —David Simmons
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| | | | Allan, You hit the nail on the head. The kind of fanatical nit-picking by fanatics of the books is the main reason I cannot continue to read the alt.fan.tolkien newsgroup. There is no joy to be found there, only the most self-serving perseverating (...) (21 years ago, 13-Jan-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | Re: Hear! Hear! —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | In lugnet.off-topic.fun, David Simmons writes (after some snippage): (...) Extremely well said, Dave and Allan! One never knows whether to trust the material one gets on DVDs as filler and background but I for one really have to believe what Jackson (...) (21 years ago, 14-Jan-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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