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Re: Site change suggestion
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Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:01:22 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Tim Courtney writes:
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw "Travis Cobbs" <tcobbs@san.REMOVE.rr.com>
wrote:
As it stands, new users are left with the impression that the community at
large uses LDraw and LEdit as their primary tools.

Well, I still use LEdit as my primary editing tools, and switch between LDLite
and L3Lab and L3P for rendering.  I'm sure I'm not alone, either.

I am behind you here.  The thought has crossed my mind a little to
change the site's focus to more of MLCad, but I haven't had the time
to impliment it.

Urk.  I'd recommend keeping the site LDraw-centric, but increasing the • exposure
of MLCad in some kind of "newbie" page.  MLCad, while a great program, is not • a
complete replacement for LEdit.

After Kidvention, I plan on inserting the site
entirely into Macromedia Dreamweaver on my PC, to make it easier to
manage.  At that time, I believe the menu system will be redesigned to
be a 4.0+ browser active drop down thingie - making it easy to update
and still visually pleasing.

Urgle.  Here's another hot-button topic.

If you put *ANY* kind of active content -- including but not limited to Java,
Javascript or Flash -- on the client end, then you must also allow for those
users who don't use these technologies in their browsers.  Failing to do so
will quickly alienate a good portion of your intended audience, especially • when
cross-platform LDraw is becoming more and more of a reality.  Remember, "4.0+
browser" only relates to Netscape and Microsoft products.

I think you're doing a great job, Tim, but please don't get too carried away
with the site.

Perhaps what might be in order is a mainpage more geared for newbies.

On it, or linked to it, could be a table of all the programs used in
the "picture-making" process listed in order from the start (designing), to
the end (near-photo quality rendering). Some people may not know where L3Lab
or LDLite fits into this process. Even the Runtime Error 200 patch could be
included so that folks know to download it and when to run it. A chart like
this could be very handy in displaying where the utilities fit in the grand
process of making a picture, and what kind of quality you get along the way at
each stage.

If folks more familiar want a page for them, perhaps another page could be set
up without the chart, with a notice to bookmark the page.

I kinda hafta agree about not using technology on the page. One of the things
I like about the page is that it loads quickly. 9 out of 10 times I'm there to
see the MOTM, read something new about ldraw.org, or get a parts update, and
then I'm gone cuz I want to design something using that new part I just
downloaded. To me, the page already looks decent. I understand why people like
flashy stuff (or they think that others do), but for sites that I often visit,
longer loading time is quite annoying. Sometimes I wish I could bookmark pages
inside sites that have this, but alas, it's not always possible.

This is one of the things I really like about Lugnet. I don't hafta wade
through a lot of unwanted "this or that" to get to the place I want. Want me
to be repeat visitor? Make it both easy and fast for me.. that's how.

-Tom McD.



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  Re: Site change suggestion
 
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw "Tom McDonald" (...) Yes. (...) Hmmm....good idea. For the CD-ROM artwork, I planned a similar chart, but this one outlining OS compatibility for the various programs offered on it. (...) Good idea(s). (...) Yeah. -Tim (...) (24 years ago, 28-Jun-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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(...) Well, I still use LEdit as my primary editing tools, and switch between LDLite and L3Lab and L3P for rendering. I'm sure I'm not alone, either. (...) Urk. I'd recommend keeping the site LDraw-centric, but increasing the exposure of MLCad in (...) (24 years ago, 28-Jun-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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