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  Re: It's all clear now... (how to use 1-4cyls2.dat)
 
(...) I kind of figured you had, but I totally didn't remember that you had. (...) Hmm. I wonder if the current 2447.dat was inlined at some point, because 1-4cyls2.dat hadn't been made official yet... (...) Yep. Or, you can copy the primitives to a (...) (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts-authoring FAQ? (Was: Hacked my first part -- 4349 Town Loudhailer)
 
(...) OK. I've temporarily ZIPped it to (URL). I'll leave it there for a few days, so you can grab it. Steve (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Are fixes automatically included?
 
(...) Oops. My bad. The bottom of the visor is a slanted half-ring, with a 15inner/17outer radius. I constructed this by overlapping the 1-4rin10 p-files, and skewing the Y value to slant the rings downward toward the front. But I used the same (...) (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: 30223 contains co-planar polygons
 
(...) True, this case isn't an example of coplanar, overlapping polygons. Good catch. But it is an example of what can happen when you take shortcuts that have no visible effect at the time. No offense meant to James--the number of parts he wrote (...) (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Texture mapping spec? (was Re: Doing Patterns and Bitmaps in MLCad)
 
(...) Sorry, Computing course at college showing through. (We were told try and specify EVERYTHING. Unfotunatly there is no concrete defintion of what EVREYTHING is.) (...) Agreed, but with the following questions? (Assuming simple rectangular (...) (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Making parts
 
(...) Welcome - new part authors are always welcome. This is a frequently asked question, the following items on lugnet.cad.dev may help (and there are certainly other threads in this group with useful info) (URL) this helps. Is you have questions, (...) (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts-authoring FAQ? (Was: Hacked my first part -- 4349 Town Loudhailer)
 
(...) No. Chris (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: an unusual request...
 
(...) pieces (...) the (...) on (...) Yes 6029 - Chris (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.pirates)
 
  Re: Are fixes automatically included?
 
"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message news:gi1arsoj23ml4du...4ax.com... (...) new (...) using (...) renderings (...) better (...) This is true. I just finished getting LDView's primitive substitution working for the quarter sloped (...) (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: It's all clear now...
 
Whoops, forgot the original point of my message: Thanks, Steve! --Travis Cobbs (tcobbs@san.REMOVE.rr.com) (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: It's all clear now...
 
Boy, talk about timing. I'm currently in the process of adding primitive substitution to LDView, and the ?-4cyls* primitives were next on my list. However, while I could definitely tell they were different (one slope appears concave; the other (...) (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Doing Patterns and Bitmaps in MLCad
 
"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message news:oekarsonpfetb7s...4ax.com... (...) I tend to agree about putting it all in 2 separate commands. However, I don't think a position vector and orientation matrix are appropriate. A texture is (...) (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: 30223 contains co-planar polygons
 
(...) Axel Poqué has already submited an update for this particular part. I've been giving it a "second opinion" adding a fix for the ghost lines mentioned above. In my opinion this part isn't an example of overlapping faces. What happened in the (...) (24 years ago, 5-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: an unusual request...
 
Yes. Just had a look through my sprue bag. Neither the 'plume' sprue nor the 'dragon' sprue have a number, though, as previously observed. On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Steve Bliss (<n4karsgppt6mu2o2dn...j87esd@4ax .com>) wrote at 20:01:33 (...) (24 years ago, 5-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.pirates)
 
  Re: Doing Patterns and Bitmaps in MLCad
 
(...) [snip] Urg. Why so wordy? Just do: 0 TEXTURE <position vector> <orientation matrix> <filename.type> [START <standard ldraw commands go here> 0 TEXTURE END] The <position vector> and <orientation matrix> parameters are identical to the (...) (24 years ago, 5-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: an unusual request...
 
Cool! We needed the number for the cattlehorns piece, in the current vote. :) Can anyone else confirm this 6029 number on the horns'n'headdress sprue? Steve (...) (24 years ago, 5-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.pirates)
 
  Re: 30223 contains co-planar polygons
 
(...) Yes, please. Fixes and improvements are always accepted! (...) Great! One more comment (to everyone, not Dave) about overlapping rectangles, and why not to use them. When this approach is used simply as a shortcut so the author doesn't have to (...) (24 years ago, 5-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: 30223 contains co-planar polygons
 
"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message news:G0ALp7.7D9@lugnet.com... (...) tag. (...) polygons. That sounds good to me, at least in this case. Since the overlapping polygons are the same color, they shouldn't cause any rendering (...) (24 years ago, 5-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: It's all clear now... (how to use 1-4cyls2.dat)
 
(...) Thanks for explaining this again Steve - I am sure I tried to explain this when I created this primitive in Oct 1998. But it is really hard to get ones head around - it took me some time playing with the *cyls.dat files before I realised I (...) (24 years ago, 5-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: 30223 contains co-planar polygons
 
(...) tag. Happily, the "bad vertex sequences" were easier to fix than I anticipated, and the part now seems to pass the L3P check-test. I'll resend it to you, if you'd like. Other than the correction, the part is more-or-less identical to the one (...) (24 years ago, 5-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  It's all clear now...  [DAT]
 
This is one is for parts authors, I suppose... I never understood the relation between the original sloped cylinder primitives--1-4cyls.dat, 2-4cyls.dat--and the newer 1-4cyls2.dat. Both sets of files are the result of intersecting a cylinder with (...) (24 years ago, 5-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts-authoring FAQ? (Was: Hacked my first part -- 4349 Town Loudhailer)
 
(...) Chris: Are you able to access this area yet? Steve (24 years ago, 5-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Are fixes automatically included?
 
(...) Currently, fixed parts are "automatically included", once the parts admin (ie: me) checks over the changes. And the fixed 2447 (the minifig visor) should look better with any color/treatment. Steve (24 years ago, 5-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Voting Open for LCAD Parts Update 2000-02
 
(...) Maybe it's the noise electronic components make when they emit smoke. Especially vacuum tubes, or anything located in a Mad Scientist's Laboratory. Steve (24 years ago, 5-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.7 Released ***
 
Travis Cobbs wrote... (...) I have also had second thoughts about the autocorrecting in L3Lab, when it is used for part inspection[1]. L3P and L3Lab share the input routines, which does several corrections. Some corrections are imperative to have (...) (24 years ago, 4-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: an unusual request...
 
Hi Franklin, I looked on both a blue feather sprue and a red one and could not find any numbers on either. HTH! Maggie C. (...) (24 years ago, 3-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: an unusual request...
 
Ack phooey The number on the white headdress sprue is 6029, *NOT* 8029. Trying to read these tiny numbers first thing in the morning is painful. -Andy Lynch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Lynch" <andy@andyandjackie.com> To: (...) (24 years ago, 3-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.pirates, lugnet.castle, lugnet.general)
 
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  Re: Voting Open for LCAD Parts Update 2000-02
 
(...) Thanks for this comment. My computer is currently on the fritz¹², so I'll have to make these corrections at a later time and send them to Steve afterwards. Sorry about that. Fredrik __ ¹ Whereever does that idiom come from? ² See (...) (24 years ago, 3-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: an unusual request...
 
(...) With there no visible number on the sprue, I'd say just go with numbering them P1, P2, P3, or some such thing, if you can put letters into the number. At least until you can find an official number. --Anthony (24 years ago, 3-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: an unusual request...
 
(...) Um I can't seem to find a # on the sprue anywhere. anyone else have any luck? maybe it is real small. Now where did I put the microscope. John (24 years ago, 3-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: an unusual request...
 
(...) Hmmm....after thoroughly examining a feather wheel for about 5 minutes or so, I can find no such number...strange, there's one on almost every other lego item.... -Chris (24 years ago, 3-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: an unusual request...
 
(...) I have a number of plume-sprues of different sizes (I assume from different years), but none of them seem to be stamped with part numbers. - Mike. (24 years ago, 3-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: 30223 contains co-planar polygons
 
(...) While the setup of this part is not the best style, there are many parts already in the library with similar designs. It's kind of a middling quality thing. I'd like to see this fixed, but I don't think this deserves a "needs work" tag. Also, (...) (24 years ago, 3-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.7 Released ***
 
"Rui Martins" <Rui.Martins@link.pt> wrote in message news:Pine.GSU.4.10.1...0@is-sv... (...) Because (...) its a (...) check (...) detected. Good point. I think I'll add an option in LDView to enable/disable warnings/errors during model loading. I (...) (24 years ago, 1-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: 30223 contains co-planar polygons
 
(...) Lars Hassing pointed that out to me this morning, and I plan to fix it. In the meantime, I would say a "needs work" tag would not be out of order. Dave! (24 years ago, 1-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.7 Released ***
 
(...) Well, for usability sake, we should correct what we can, but this is a dangerous feature, if we don't issue at least some warnings about it. Because this will lead the authors to get sloppy (please don't take me wrong here, its a Human factor) (...) (24 years ago, 1-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Windows with Glass (Was: Voting Open...)
 
(...) Yes, and yes. But as long as the other classic windows are glassed this way, I follow the "standard" James set, or else it would look strange to mix them with the other ones. -- Tore Eriksson Sweden ICQ: 76066510 LEGO: MOC++++ FS,SP,TO++ TC+ (...) (24 years ago, 1-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Are fixes automatically included?
 
I'm new to the whole parts update process. Are the fixed parts automatically included in the update? The reason I ask is because the new version of 2447 looks hugely better than the old version when viewed using blended alpha instead of stipple (...) (24 years ago, 1-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  30223 contains co-planar polygons
 
Part 30223 contains co-planar polygons. View it in L3Lab with random colors turned on to graphically see what I'm talking about. Is this considered ok, or should this qualify as "Needs work"? --Travis Cobbs (tcobbs@san.REMOVE.rr.com) (24 years ago, 1-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)


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