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Re: To Tore Eriksson
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Date: 
Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:28:03 GMT
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I did reply the mail and had no delivery failure message.
Since there is nothing private in it, I paste in the reply here.
See below.

Thanks Mike and Mookie for the backup. :)
As you can see, Manfred did offer me to do the work if I felt I didn't have the
time and motivation.
/Tore



Subject: Re: #3228, Train Track Straight - 4.5 volt.
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:59:56 +0200
From: Tore Eriksson <tore.eriksson@mbox325.swipnet.se>
To: mmoolhuysen@ingenieursbureau.amsterdam.nl
References: 1




Hello Manfred,
Thanks for pointing these errors out. I had no idea...


mmoolhuysen@ingenieursbureau.amsterdam.nl wrote:

Hello Tore,

I want to consult you about a part you've made: #3228, Train Track Straight -
4.5 volt.
There are two issues:

First, I've been making the newer grey version of this part, that is the one
that has grooves for holding the clamps of the sleeper parts (#4166 and #767)
Also, I'm planning to write some other grooved track pieces. I'm giving my part
#3228b the name: Train Track  4.5 V Grey Straight. Naming it like this has the
benefit of making Blue and Grey sort separately,  This also allows future adding

of the currently sold 9V track and 12V power-feeding track in their own separate

sorting groups. In the light of this, I propose to you to rename your track part

into #3228a, Train Track  4.5 V Blue Straight.
I know that the LDraw parts technically are not set to a fixed Blue or Grey
colour, but I felt these colours where the best short descriptors for the two
types of track material. Do you agree whit the proposed naming protocol ?

Yes, I agree. I think that's the best way to distinguish between the generations,
and the alphabetical sorting will also come out best.
I have also started to comply with the pattern:
  0 CMDLINE c1
to indicate default colour.
(By the time I made the train tracks, this issue hadn't yet come up though).



Secondly, when I was making #3228b, I've studied your part #3228 (and I've been
ripping off the teeth section for use in my part)

Ripping off is ok with me (even though some LCad'ers say we shall not rip).



While doing this I've found that your part has a few flaws. I mention: some of
the teeth lack their side faces, there are bottom faces missing at the ends of
the part, and there is a case of "easy but illegal use" of a box5 primitive

The red one, I suppose?


(please forgive the description) I have a GIF attached that demonstrates the
last two problems. When I measured the depth of the bottom cavity, I fount it
wasn't the standard 4 LDU depth, but it was 6 LDU depth instead,  for both the
Blue and the Grey type of track. Do you agree with this measurement ?

Yes, and no. I follow the LDraw standard of treating plates and tiles. Their
cavity
is also greater than 4 LDU. With no intruments but my eyes I see noo differece
between the cavity of a 1xX plate and that of a train track. Of course, if it
matters for the grey tracks' grooves and clamps, than I suggest the grey should
have
exact cavity. Anyway, if you make a grey train track, you decide how you measure.
But for the blue tracks, I disagree.

Can you
find the time and motivation to make an update yourself, or do you prefer if I
cook it up for you ? In either case I'll send you some aiding material or the
complete file, so you can submit the update as your own.

These errors really surprise me. I guess I did not submit the final version, or
could I really be so sloppy? Anyway, if I've made a better version, it is either
deleted or it will take more time to find it than to fix the official part.
If you already have fixed it, there is no reason for me to do the same work again.

If so, go ahead and submit it. If not, I have some free hours before the weekend.


Thanks,
/Tore



Greetings, Manfred Moolhuysen.

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Adviesbureau Noord/Zuidlijn wrote:

Hello Tore,

Do you have another E-mail adress, technical problems, or are you too involved
with some other issue ? I've send a mail about part #3228 to your pesonal
address about one week ago. Should I send it again ?

Greetings, Manfred Moolhuysen.



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: To Tore Eriksson
 
Before you commit the part names containing _blue_ or _grey_, I think I am right in saying that the version without the notches exists in grey too. Chris (...) the (...) - (...) #767) (...) part (...) the (...) adding (...) separate (...) part (...) (...) (25 years ago, 29-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
  Re: To Tore Eriksson
 
Thanks Tore, Sorry, I've missed your second announcement,I'v been off the list myself during that time. Thank you for your reaction despite that you have those issues on yor hand. O.K, it's a deal, I'll do the update and submission of part 3228 for (...) (25 years ago, 30-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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  To Tore Eriksson
 
Hello Tore, Do you have another E-mail adress, technical problems, or are you too involved with some other issue ? I've send a mail about part #3228 to your pesonal address about one week ago. Should I send it again ? Greetings, Manfred Moolhuysen. (25 years ago, 29-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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