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  RE: Modeling the tan color
 
(...) The LDraw FAQ at (URL) says: Tan LDraw: 382 RGB: 204 170 102 LDLite: 19 Color 382 is recognized by all applications, color 19 only by LDLite. /Lars (25 years ago, 4-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Modeling the tan color
 
color #19 will do it. it will only show tan in ldlite birt it will be there. (25 years ago, 4-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Old Magnet
 
the magnet holder piece is also found on the 4.5v battery boxz. the base of this bix is similar to the base part as well except that the wheels are black. (25 years ago, 4-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Modeling the tan color
 
Please pardon the possible redundancy of this post. I'm not sure how to model the tan color of the new Star Wars sets (as well as the Indiana Jones knock-offs). Is there a FAQ, web site, readme, or whatever that will tell me how to define this (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
(...) I think so too. (...) Then there is that. (...) Oops. Quite right. (...) That is assuming the file will be viewable online of course. Which would be a good idea. And, if it uses lugnet to archive them, will be just so. Hmm.... have the server (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: why is it that...
 
(...) It is a time-consuming task, believe it or not. And even if you did the work, I would have to go through each file and check for accuracy and adherance to formatting standards. Which takes about the same time. And, sorry to say, your past (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) Well, you can currently edit MPD files -- if you have LDLite hooked up as the viewer, it deals with the MPD issues. Hmmm. I haven't played around with this very much, I should do so. But I was thinking of a multi-window MPD editor, that would (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) Sure! But what kind of support? Aside from "Open Subfile", I mean. (...) :-D Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) That was my point exactly: the inline operation applies the transform information from the reference statement on to each of the inlined statements. So cut and paste can only move the modified lines into a file with the same name. (...) That's (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
Following up myself to resolve a dangling footnote... (...) [1] In the next version of LDAO, the stand-alone inliner will allow you better control over the inlining process. Specifically, there will be options/buttons to: - Select all subfiles - (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) I you're running Emacs, you can use my LDraw-mode to do inlining. And you can even choose the number of decimal places to preserve! It defaults to two, though. Inlining in Emacs has the obvious advantage that you see what you get while still (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) Whoops, I almost didn't read that. :-, But a cut and paste won't necessarily restore the origin of the sub-model, will it? My main reason for using sub-models is to place the origin in a weird spot, usually for rotation purposes. I agree that (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDAO Suggestion
 
(...) Hmm. Would it be acceptable to present this view, but not support rendering the files in the subdirectories? That is, if you have a subfile in a subdirectory, should you have to include the subdirectory in the model when you use the subfile? (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:12:49 GMT, legoverse@geocities.com (Terry K) wrote: [Good descriptions of inlining/MPD snipped] (...) And if you use a ZIP archive, you have to unzip. Unzipping is generally more convenient than splitting an MPD, for the user. (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
(...) That only works if there is a single inline. And it doesn't actually undo the inline, it just creates a similar subfile. (...) Search the lugnet archive. Jacob's tools are at (URL). Onyx's M-Peedy is at (URL). (...) Generally, yes. You can (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) Outlining can only be done with manual intervention, because there's no final delimiter on the inlined code. So the human has to select the code to outline. I *think* the matrix math can be reversed, but I'm not sure. I don't know if there is (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) Inlining isn't a format, it's an operation. A file-reference (type 1 line) is replaced with the contents of the referenced file, but the color and transform (position, rotation, scaling) from the original command are applied to each line from (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: why is it that...
 
it does not seem too dificult on your part. basicly there is simply the changes to the descriptions and then the writing of a small file detailing the changes. i could do both if you would be interested and all you would have to do is include them (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: why is it that...
 
(...) Sorry about that JW. There are many parts in those three categories, and a few in Train as well, that do need moving. And they will probably all eventually get moved. I am sure you could (and can, and do) come up with lots of suggestions. Be (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Voting page 9905
 
(...) If you want to do so, be my guest. Just send it in before it is officialized. -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
(...) Info: --- Inlining: Inlining is generally considered a "one-way" process - though the inlined section can be manually cut out and pasted into a separate file if the beginning and end of the inlined section is known. It is directly viewable in (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  why is it that...
 
why is it that no-one seems to be interested in trying to move parts from the town,space and castle catogries to other catogries (e.g. the castle pike to minifig pice). i could probobly come up with heaps of good re-naming ideas but no-one seams to (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
Not only cutting and pasting, you have to know where the last line of an inlined file is. Scott R Dennett wrote in message <199906021848140350....te.net>... (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDAO Suggestion
 
(...) I strongly second the motion here...that would help tremendously! -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 1-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Purtting togeher Minifigs?
 
(...) Personally, I subfile *everything* that might possibly rotate. e.g. The left hand and whatever it's carrying goes into mflhand.dat, and this file is centered on the axis of rotation; the left arm and mflhand.dat go into mflarm.dat; the torso (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  (canceled)
 
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) Sounds like a good feature to have around as well. What is the format difference between inlining and mpd anyways? They both contain multiple ldraw models in one file... (sorry I sound a little clueless...but all I use LDraw/LDAO for is making (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  (canceled)
 
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
(...) Actually, Steve, it isn't one way if you don't mind doing a little cutting and pasting :) So if you really think MPD is that much better than what you did, where can I get it to see if I like it, I mean there must be some sort of program to (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
(...) Sounds good to me. If you could, Steve, include an mpd compiler and splitter in the next version of LDAO that could make things easier for users. Oh, and what is happening with the rumored but illusive LDraw II project?? -Tim Courtney (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) Is there any way to reverse the inlining to the original file (lossless outlining, I guess it would be) using the comment that the inlining function writes? Does the matrix math work in this direction? Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
(...) I'd recommend going with MPD. LDLite will render a (properly formatted) MPD file, and the MPD format allows downloaders the possibility of splitting the file back into its separate pieces. Inline is a one-way operation. Steve (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: desperatly seeking mock-up of the 4.5v points
 
Two extremely mocked-up points parts could be found as sw-l.dat and sw-r.dat at: (URL) they are very roughly mocked-up, their orientation is exact. This is how I want them aligned. /Tore (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
I assume you use LDAO?? what you do is have a model that you're working on(normally one you've finished) and the submodels in the models folder(not neccessary though). You have the main file of the model highlighted, you go to tools, you scroll down (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
(...) Then I would like to ask someone to explain to me inlining.. you only inline the lines of the submodel...how do you get them all in one file, etc? -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 1-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: fixes??
 
(...) Oh, right. Yes, cheating the lines in the renderer is acceptable. It doesn't help Mookie, but it would be a long-term solution. Steve (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
(...) Inline PLEASE!!! I know hothing about MPD except you have to split the file. Inline, you just go to the LDAO tools menu, click Inline, check the lines you wnat inlined, clik OK(or something to that efect), and your home free. Pretty easy if (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Voting page 9905
 
(...) :-S Oops. I can be more specific (but it's really a minor issue): I am viewing it in LEdit at 2x magnification, at the underside. Underneath, you see the center cylinder, with four sets of two half-cylinders forming a cross around it. The (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
(...) This raises an important question. We should have a standard format for submodels for the TLG models. MPD or inlining? Given my limited knowledge, which is more user-friendly? can LDraw/LEdit/LDLite read an inlined file without the user having (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Voting page 9905
 
(...) The placement of this part was discussed here before submitting it. It is probably not at all clear how it should be centered, but this was chosen as a compromise. The current placement should make it easy to use in a piston engine, which (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)


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