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  A little program I wrote
 
I was looking through some old programs I've written or was working on and I came across my dat converter, basically it let you just copy the entire message from a newsgroup posting of the dat file and then it would either strip away all the (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Planes & Requirements for a generic download-tool
 
Ok I do not have a problem with http ... so as it looks we are going to use http with some informational files ... just for my understanding ... what the matter with ldraw.org and ftp ? Have I missed something ? Michael Steve Bliss (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: eliminating polygons?
 
(...) Thanks! I guess I'll have to get pretty involved in the in-to's and out's of part- making. I'm kind of lazy. I thought there might be an easy way of doing it. Anyway, I shouldn't infringe on the LDraw organization, since they're their parts, (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Planes & Requirements for a generic download-tool
 
(...) We can always either: a. Enable directory listings for the appropriate directories. b. Supply a parts.dir file, containing the directory listing. BTW, unless something radical changes with the current situation, FTP is the wrong way to go for (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Planes & Requirements for a generic download-tool
 
Yes I know, with Win32 it's easy no matter if it's http or ftp, but is it also under Unix? I would like to keep the source as portable as possible. In general it doesn't depend on the protocol, but getting directory listings from ftp servers is (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Part Command (1)
 
Ok unless my new parsing-routine is ready I will replace the spaces by underlines as a work-arround since I found out the real problem is the space in the file-name. MLCad stops after reading the first word ... has the halfe file-name and cries that (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Planes & Requirements for a generic download-tool
 
(...) There's a zip library at ftp.cdrom.com that is capable of extracting files (doh !) and has an example for creating a win32 program. I forgot the name but it should be very easy to find. (...) If you're going to do a win32 program then you can (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Can LDAO do this? (was: anyone interested in rendering for me?)
 
(...) Yes, this should be perfectly appropriate. Perl would be a good tool to do this. Of course, it makes more sense to do this conversion in L3P to start with... If we can persuade Lars to do it! On the other hand, I don't like using POV-Ray to (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Part Command (1)
 
(...) Absolutly! I couldn't agre more! -Chuck (24 years ago, 13-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Planes & Requirements for a generic download-tool
 
(...) Great to see someone is in sink with me ! I have been planning this for a while too ! (...) I was thinking more on the line of an update for the Oficial DATs, but this can be easilly extended if a config file for each program/library can be (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Part Command (1)
 
(...) I personally am agaist this ! DAT/MPD files SHOULD be Compatible (NOT MUST BE), because people may have no desire to keep it's compatibility, it's a choice up to the user. This offcourse is only related with peoples models, NOT oficial parts, (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Planes & Requirements for a generic download-tool
 
Hy, after exchanging some mails with Tim Courtney, I'm planing to write a generic download-utility for LDraw/LEdit stuff. The basic idea behind is to have a utility which can be used to download a specific program and/or the part libraries. Also an (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Can LDAO do this? (was: anyone interested in rendering for me?)
 
(...) I've simply used the POV-Ray 3.1 manual, which has a tutorial on most major features, and a nice reference. It can be gotten from (URL) (24 years ago, 13-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Category Statement
 
But this also tells me that I will wait before implementing anything regarding this topic! Michael Manfred Moolhuysen <moom@nospamchello.nl> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: FxJL77.4oo@lugnet.com... (...) basis (...) instructions. (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Part Command (1)
 
Ok, thanks - than I will restrict the possible file-names when entering for mpd to 8.3 notation to be compatible. Michael Steve Bliss <blisses@worldnet.att.net> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: i06pms8b3fjj71uns1jo...4ax.com... (...) the (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: question on naming - pirate guns vs. modern guns
 
(...) Which wouldn't explain an arquebus, the muzzle-loading precursor to the musket. I believe the difference between the two when both were used was that the musket had a longer barrel and fired a heavier ball (armor could be "proof" against an (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: question on naming - pirate guns vs. modern guns
 
(...) Not all muskets have a belled muzzle. Civil War era muskets were non-belled, making them much more accurate. I believe "musket" refers to muzzle loading, as a butt loading rifle was known as a carbine. Sorry, I'm a stickler for history. -John (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Live from Kidvention!!
 
Hello everyone! I'm posting to you live from our LDraw and GMLTC train layout display at Legoland California for the Lego Maniac Kidvention. We're having a blast here with the displays talking to people and informing them about the online Lego (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.events, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.legoland) ! 
 
  Re: Can LDAO do this? (was: anyone interested in rendering for me?)
 
(...) The main file for, say, SKETCH.DAT, shows up as a union block named sketch_dot_dat. I suppose that a post-l3p tool could just read in the POV output file and parse this union and insert the clock-checking logic. The same tool could also spit (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Can LDAO do this? (was: anyone interested in rendering for me?)
 
(...) Yeah, and the docs aren't the best, either. Do you know of any decent tutorials for the 3.1 language? Online or book would be great, but all I've seen is stuff for 3.0... Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Can LDAO do this? (was: anyone interested in rendering for me?)
 
(...) Yeah, you got it! I used the POV-Ray clock to make an animation a year ago, so I learned a bit about it. I'm sure you've all seen it before: (URL) I get the time, I'm planning to make another animation, but don't hold your breath! ;-) (...) (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Can LDAO do this? (was: anyone interested in rendering for me?)
 
(...) I suppose some of you may want to try this out, so do something like this with your POV-Ray file, as generated by L3P. Identify the portion of the file where the "0 STEP" lines are present and add #if and #end statements like this: // [DAT (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Can LDAO do this? (was: anyone interested in rendering for me?)
 
(...) Selective rendering of parts based upon the animation clock value or something like that? Cool, I didn't know POVRay could do that. Is it a preprocessor macro thingy, or something else? I was thinking, however, more along the lines of being (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Can LDAO do this? (was: anyone interested in rendering for me?)
 
(...) It is much more sane to use POV-Ray's animation system to do this automatically. That way, you could issue one POV-Ray command and render all the instruction steps in one run, using only one POV-file. I have suggested this to Lars C Hassing, (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Can LDAO do this? (was: anyone interested in rendering for me?)
 
(...) Sweet! Since POV renderings take a while, and that you'd need a POV for each step anyway, I'm wondering if all the L3P output could be saved, e.g. STEP0001.POV, STEP0002.POV, etc. Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: question on naming - pirate guns vs. modern guns
 
(...) Hmm. Possibly. I thought a "musket" was a gun with a belled/flared muzzle (among other characteristics). Typical usage is for long-barrelled weapons. (...) I guess I'd be OK with that. Steve (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Can LDAO do this? (was: anyone interested in rendering for me?)
 
(...) Actually, it shouldn't take much change to LDAO. Just an additional loop to spit out a DAT file for each step, then use L3P to translate it, and POV-Ray to render it. Steve (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Part Command (1)
 
(...) Like Rui said, LDraw only uses 8.3, and other programs (and part authors) should do the same. *Especially* for part-files. (...) Yes. Also, either format allows the inclusion of path information as part of the file name. Steve (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partial list of parts for 2000-02 Update
 
(...) Yep. (...) A. Because the barrel is a legitimate and common point for minifig to grip their muskets. B. Because it's a more standard orientation than going for the "grip". Maybe I forgot, but I meant to also ask you to insert a comment-line, (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Part Command (1)
 
(...) As far as I know, they should be compatible with Ldraw, which means compatible with DOS or more preciselly filenames must have a name like "8.3" ie, 8 characters for name, and 3 for the extension. Besides this, you can also use regular DOS (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Part Command (1)
 
How should the file name in the part command be handled? Should it be one word only (e.g. xyz.dat) or can it included spaces (e.g. Special Part.dat)? Is this handling the same for dat and mpd files? Michael (24 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Can LDAO do this? (was: anyone interested in rendering for me?)
 
(...) What would be better is if there were a utility to help automate POVRAY rendering of MOC instruction books, kinda like what LDraw Add-On does for LDLite instruction renderings. Steve, do you know how much change LDAO would need in order to do (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: Category Statement
 
(...) By all means! I was secretly hoping that my questions would lead to such a type of action. Feel free to rearange them into a clear set of instructions. You've earned my gratitude again, M. Moolhuysen. (24 years ago, 11-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: question on naming - pirate guns vs. modern guns
 
(...) Isn't "Musket Pistol" an oxymoron? Why not just name them Minifig Flintlock Pistol Minifig Flintlock Musket Minifig Revolver eric (24 years ago, 11-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: question on naming - pirate guns vs. modern guns
 
(...) I'm fairly happy with keeping the names short, and introducing longer names when (if) it becomes necessary. Minifig Revolver is (currently) clear Minifig Rifle is clear Minifig Musket is not clear So Minifig Musket Longarm (or whatever other (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partial list of parts for 2000-02 Update
 
(...) No need. Now that I've gotten LDAO installed correctly (KNOCK ON WOOD), I can take care of the musket myself. It'll take a day or so, I'm foguring. Thanks, though. BTW: IIRC, you asked that I re-orient the musket so that the *barrel* is the (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Category Statement
 
In lugnet.cad.dev, Manfred Moolhuysen wrote: Moving this one to the top: (...) CATEGORY provides a method to place all parts in a comprehensive classification system. KEYWORDS provides a method to associate potential search-terms with a part. (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partial list of parts for 2000-02 Update
 
(...) Sorry about the employment thing. I know what its like to be fired. If you want, I can reorient the longarm musket part. I'll do it the same way you would - with LDAO. Steve (24 years ago, 11-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: question on naming - pirate guns vs. modern guns
 
(...) *either* the "Pirate Musket Pistol" *or* the "Wild West Pistol Revolver"... You *don't* know for *certain* just by looking at that name... (Continued below.) (...) By using "modern" and "archaic", there would be *no* ambiguity: an *archaic* (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: question on naming - pirate guns vs. modern guns
 
How about just minifig gun musket minifig gun pistol minifig gun revolver and minifig gun rifle (24 years ago, 10-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)


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