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Re: question on naming - pirate guns vs. modern guns
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Date: 
Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:26:48 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, John Rudy writes:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Steve Bliss writes:
> > In lugnet.cad.dev, Lorbaat wrote:
> > 
> > > In lugnet.cad.dev, Steve Bliss writes:
> > > 
> > > > Minifig Revolver is (currently) clear
> > > > Minifig Rifle is clear
> > > > Minifig Musket is not clear
> > > > 
> > > > So
> > > > Minifig Musket Longarm (or whatever other term is appropriate)
> > > > Minifig Musket Pistol
> > > 
> > > Isn't "Musket Pistol" an oxymoron?
> > 
> > Hmm.  Possibly.  I thought a "musket" was a gun with a belled/flared muzzle
> > (among other characteristics).  Typical usage is for long-barrelled
> > weapons.
> Not all muskets have a belled muzzle.  Civil War era
> muskets were non-belled, making them much more accurate.
> I believe "musket" refers to muzzle loading, as a butt
> loading rifle was known as a carbine.  Sorry, I'm a stickler
> for history.
> -John Rudy
> > 
> > > Why not just name them
> > > 
> > > Minifig Flintlock Pistol
> > > Minifig Flintlock Musket
> > 
> > I guess I'd be OK with that.
> > 
> > Steve

Which wouldn't explain an arquebus, the muzzle-loading precursor to the musket.
I believe the difference between the two when both were used was that the
musket had a longer barrel and fired a heavier ball (armor could be "proof"
against an arquebus, but not a musket...more or less).

The short barreled musketoon had somewhat of a flaired barrel (or at least the
few examples I have seen).  Perfect for short distance boarding actions, handy
and easier to load than a musket, but not nearly as good as a musket shooting
from the masts and yards.  The longer-barreled blunderbuss had a more
pronounced flair, but was essentially a muzzle-loading shotgun since it didn't
fire a ball.

The Pirates period goes early enough that you might see matchlocks or
wheellocks in addition to flintlocks.

Carbines were shorter and handier than a musket or military rifle, and were
favored by cavalry.  Breech-loading is the term I think you are searching
for...?

Bruce
(waiting for a real stickler to rip me to shreds in turn)
:-)



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  Re: question on naming - pirate guns vs. modern guns
 
(...) Not all muskets have a belled muzzle. Civil War era muskets were non-belled, making them much more accurate. I believe "musket" refers to muzzle loading, as a butt loading rifle was known as a carbine. Sorry, I'm a stickler for history. -John (...) (26 years ago, 12-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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