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Re: question on naming - pirate guns vs. modern guns
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lugnet.cad.dev
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Sun, 16 Jul 2000 20:17:30 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Franklin W. Cain writes:
> > In lugnet.cad.dev, Jonathan Wilson writes:
> > > How about just
> > > minifig gun musket
> > > minifig gun pistol
> >
> > Because *this* one *could* mean *either* the "Pirate Musket Pistol"
> > *or* the "Wild West Pistol Revolver"...
> > You *don't* know for *certain* just by looking at that name...
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> Just as a casual LDraw user, I appreciate the effort
> to disambiguate the names by including "Archaic" vs. "Modern,"
> but then again it wouldn't be obvious to me what "Archaic" meant
> and what "Modern" meant.
> If "Modern" applied to the Wild West revolver,
> it would be confusing to me (personally)
> because I think of "modern" as something
> within the last half- or quarter-century
> rather than something since the beginning
> of the Industrial Age.
[sigh]... You've got a point.
"modern" w/ respect to History != "modern" in mundane usage
> I agree with Jonathan's suggestions
> but I also agree that "Pistol" is still a bit ambiguous.
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> What about these?--
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> Minifig Gun Musket
> Minifig Gun Flintlock
> Minifig Gun Rifle
> Minifig Gun Revolver
Sorry, but once again, this opens up confusion.
Which one of these is the pirate pistol?
Which one is the pirate long-gun?
(You see, not all muskets are "muskets" [long muskets];
some are pistols. I've seen the term "musket pistolle"
in historical references before. Likewise,
not all flintlocks/wheelocks/black-powder/archaic/whatever
are (long) muskets; some are pistols.)
> Is it correct that the brown Pirates pistol/gun is a flintlock?
Either that or a wheelock (which is an improvement
over the flintlock design).
Actually, I think we may need to go to this:
Minifig Gun Pirate Musket
Minifig Gun Pirate Pistol
Minifig Gun WW Revolver
Minifig Gun WW Pistol
Yes, I know that Steve wants to go away from using the "theme names",
but I think we're just gonna have to use them in this case. :-P
Comments? Feedback?
(However, please direct all flames
to "bubba@whitehouse.gov". ;-)
Thanks,
Franklin
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 | | Re: question on naming - pirate guns vs. modern guns
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| Franklin W. Cain skrev i meddelandet ... (...) Shouldn't that be: Minifig Gun Musket Pirate Minifig Gun Pistol Pirate Minifig Gun Revolver WW Minifig Gun Pistol WW to push the theme dependency to the least significant end? (Is WW an accepted (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
| | | Re: question on naming - pirate guns vs. modern guns
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| (...) That settles the "is 'musket pistol' an oxymoron?" question. (...) If we go this way, flintlock is a better-known term, and so is probably a better choice for naming. (...) Is that the long musket or the pistol? ;) (...) (you've got the (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: question on naming - pirate guns vs. modern guns
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| (...) Just as a casual LDraw user, I appreciate the effort to disambiguate the names by including "Archaic" vs. "Modern," but then again it wouldn't be obvious to me what "Archaic" meant and what "Modern" meant. If "Modern" applied to the Wild West (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jul-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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