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Re: New Terms of Use for LUGNET
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Date: 
Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:50:17 GMT
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Tim Gould wrote:
Looking at your suggestions for sales posts it seems as though MOC
announcements/ad combined posts would be unallowed in most groups.
Personally I would prefer that they should be allowed in the relavent
announcement group provided the follow-up group is set to .market.

This has particular issues now that Factory is usable as it means
that people could announce that their new Factory MOC is for sale (in
this case their is no profit for the poster but it is still a sales
announcement).

Factory is a bit of a grey area. Given that the poster doesn't (currently)
stand to benefit from the sales, and given that the purpose is to point out
the existence of a new model, I think that's ok. That's no different than
pointing to Shop at Home to point out some new set not previously shown
elsewhere.

The thing to consider is what is the primary purpose.

The other big one is modded parts such as those made by Ondrew
Hartigan and Rob Hendrix. The nature of these often means that the
person sells on the modded version (or a copy) but the initial post
is also an announcement that it has been done (repeat posts obviously
should be in .market).

I think that type of thing can be handled by making the first announcement
not actually include the sale information, or at least not directly. I think
it would be ok to say "and I'll be putting these up for sale when I refine
the process." or something to that effect. That clues the person who wants
to buy to start watching the .market groups.

If you're cross-posting to .market, then you are clearly trying to directly
drive sales, and to me that is a market post. We either allow market posts
outside or .market or we don't.

The trend seems to be that people don't want to see market posts in the
theme groups.

Of course another solution would be to set up .market subgroups
(.market.trains, .market.space etc.) which are linked to from the
main group. This would keep market traffic out of the main group
whilst providing a way for people to find items of interest (as a
post, not a purchase) to them without having to sort through the full
.market.b-s-t list.

A nice thought, if there was enough traffic to justify. The reality is the
.market groups are so underutilized I question the actual need for separate
.auction, .buy-sell-trade, and .brickshops at this point. I don't look at
these groups on a daily basis, and I've never seen more than a handfull of
posts at a time, except when I've not looked for several weeks.

Frank



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--various snippage-- (...) Thinking on this particular issue I think I would prefer an extra set of market guidelines sitting outside the main TOS. What if Factory starts paying out an authors share? Then it becomes more grey since for some people (...) (18 years ago, 18-Sep-06, to lugnet.admin.terms)

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(...) Hi Frank, Looking at your suggestions for sales posts it seems as though MOC announcements/ad combined posts would be unallowed in most groups. Personally I would prefer that they should be allowed in the relavent announcement group provided (...) (18 years ago, 18-Sep-06, to lugnet.admin.terms)

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