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Re: New Terms of Use for LUGNET
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Date: 
Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:57:13 GMT
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Some thoughts on the discussion group terms:

#7: clarify to allow use of FTX.

#9.2: I think it would be reasonable to allow auction postings in groups
that specifically allow them, though it should be pointed out that set of
groups would generally ONLY include .org groups (perhaps a general note that
market posting outside or .market would almost never happen outside of .org
groups).

In general, it might also be worth clarifying what is a commercial post and
what isn't. Make sure discussion of sets and MOCs is enabled even if the
only place to link to for a picture of such is a commercial web site
posting. Here are some thoughts on rules of thumb:

1. Does the poster stand to make money or conduct a trade as a result of the
post? If so, that's a commercial posting, and belongs in the appropriate
group (hmm, you also need to clarify what goes in .brickshops,
.buy-sell-trade, and .auction (also clarify if a best offer post is an
auction or a buy-sell-trade - at one time I believe Todd considered a best
offer post as an auction).

2. Is the poster pointing out the opportunity to buy something from an
online or brick and mortar retail operation? Such a post belongs in
.market.shopping. If the poster is pointing out the opportunity to buy
something from an online auction or brickshop, perhaps that belongs in the
appropriate group (i.e. no "my buddy is auctioning off an XYZ, look at his
cool MOC!" posts).

3. In the case of an auction, it might be better to wait until the auction
is concluded to say "look here's a neat MOC!" If not, make it clear the
poster is not intending to drum up business for the auction, but is trying
to point out some neat MOC, or an example of an old set or part or
something.

On acknowlegdement and acceptance:

#3: it might be polite to point out this is only for the purposes of hosting
the Lugnet site, and potentially publishing a best of CD or something, but
maybe that's not really necessary. More importantly might be to note that a
legal judgement can override that, and Lugnet especially does not lay claim
to any copyrighted or trade secret material that is posted without
permission (but again, maybe that kind of thing is automatically assumed).

Oh, one more thought - document a clear process for raising complaints with
violation of the discussion group terms (and I would suggest adding a remark
that continued discussion after the Lugnet administration makes a final
decision may be grounds for action).

Otherwise looks good. I welcome the updating of the .market posts.

Frank



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  Re: New Terms of Use for LUGNET
 
(...) Hi Frank, Looking at your suggestions for sales posts it seems as though MOC announcements/ad combined posts would be unallowed in most groups. Personally I would prefer that they should be allowed in the relavent announcement group provided (...) (18 years ago, 18-Sep-06, to lugnet.admin.terms)

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  New Terms of Use for LUGNET
 
Hi, due to the fact that this site is now subjected to German law, there are new ToU for LUGNET. NEW (URL) OLD (URL) The ToU are now more clear, changes are as follows: Changes in "OVERVIEW AND DEFINITIONS" The headline is no longer "Overview and (...) (18 years ago, 18-Sep-06, to lugnet.admin.terms, lugnet.general, FTX) !! 

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