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(...) I think this is where we may have gotten off track Larry. I *suspect* you may be very interested in having the charter(s) updated as a way of addressing your pet peeve(s). And this is should have been understood by me. It wasn't and I (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Would having a link in the nntp headers to the groups charter (as a 'X-' line) be of any help? It'd allow you to go to any post and click on it and get the charter. Since the Web already has a equivalent (the link in corner thing) so it could (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) This was a good suggestion, and needs to be expanded to the web interface: On the page for posting a message, there could be either the entire text of the charter for the group being posted/replied to, or at least a link to it. To cover (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) heh, heard ya the first time, and I like the idea... I'll see if I can find time to code this... :) Dan (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yes, unless the charter was revised in a later message. I made this suggestion earlier, but I think it got lost in the noise so I'll repeat it: what if the confirmation e-mail contained text asking the user to make sure the message complies (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'll take Todd's interpretation over yours, thanks. Hence my cite. You may want to read it. Here it is again for your convenience: (...) But it is a different question from whether some posts to .announce are currently in violation of the (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hmm. You deleted my point rather than answer it... funny that. (...) I'm not so sure. It is all a matter of interpretation. ;) Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It's broke, unless the charter is changed. (URL) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well that depends on how much "extra precedence" is given. That point aside, perhaps a cynic would admit that the fact that more than half of the last 100 messages have been highlight/spotlighted is quite impressive. Is any other group better? (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) yes, it's autogenerated, from the database's idea of what the charter is for that group. Dan (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Scott Arthur writes: <snip> From: (URL) precedence is given to announcements and lower to administravia, market, and off-topic messages. " 8 out of 10 proves only that the algorithm is working as designed, and boosting (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It appears that you are more cynical than I. However, even a cynic has to admit that 8/10 is a good strike rate... Scott A (who is not one bit cynical) (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Right. The algorithm for determining the entries into top stories automatically gives heavier weight to stuff posted into .announce... a fine example of the law of unintended consequences, subclass "you get what you measure for"... ++Lar (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) (should have said "as a stopgap") (...) Good idea. (...) Agreed. but as as stopgap, seems better than nothing. It's still not clear to me if the text that appears at the top is the group specific text from the original charter, from the latest (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Messages posted to a .announce group show up in the "top stories" much more quickly than mssages not in an .announce group. My cynical nature suggests to me that this is at least partly the reason it is posted to (inappropriately) so often. (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) <snip> it is. The charter for each newsgroup is in the top left corner of the page for that newsgroup. Which makes Larry's link redundant, although it does prove that charter messages are not modified to reflect the updated charter for a (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.faq)
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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:GpErx5.HCE@lugnet.com... (...) NNTP I (...) ago, it (...) in a (...) with a (...) then (...) Scott A (...) it (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) ... (...) I agree. (...) I disagree. Rather than each curator adding a link, the charter link should be part of the page. At the bottom of the page, there are already a link to 'Terms of Use'. 'Newsgoup Charter' would be a natural next to (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) GREAT idea. (...) Well, many groups have a blurb at the top which is the group specific part of the charter. But providing a link to the whole thing is a good idea too, and I've done that for trains and trains.org. I suggest other curators (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Charters are always post #1. One thing to remember is that while Lugnet appears to be an NNTP server with an e-mail interface and a very nifty web interface, it's really a huge data base, with NNTP, e-mail, and web interfaces. Requesting post (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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