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First swearing, and now homophobia. I strongly feel that Señor Harte should be officially reprimanded, at a minimum... --Bill. (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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I do object to the swearing, but I agree that people should not make LEGO minifigs into gay characters. Anyway, just because someone doesn't like gay minifigs doesn't mean that they're homophobic. Instead of homophobia, they could be homoodious (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Why shouldn't they make gay character's? I don't think you should tell people what to do or not to do. Don't like it, don't look at it. (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It's called "homophobia" because bigotry is fear-based. Hating homosexuals is just as wrong as hating black people or Jews. XFUT: lugnet.off-topic.debate --Bill. (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"William R Ward" <bill@wards.net> wrote in message news:m2ofktbfq0.fsf_...rds.net... (...) I think he should be repirmanded as well - only for swearing though. His response was very distasteful and out of line, though I don't think he can or should (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Homophobia is wrong in my view. Very wrong and very misguided. But expressing one's opinion about it, even if it is hateful, isn't directly against the ToS, I don't think. (...) I agree, because his speech is a strong and clear cut violation (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hmmm... in my dictionary it doesn't say that fear has anything at all to do with bigotry, but rather narrow-mindedness. More specifically, anyone who refuses to see "the big picture" is a bigot. Maybe your dictionary says something different? (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Despite having previously been labled a homophobe myself, I second this. Why not make gay characters? Heck, I might even purchase or create a couple of gay characters myself just to include in a story concept if I were so inclined to do so. (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Really? What if I were to use the "N" word? It's just an opinion, right? I'm sure racist or religious slurs wouldn't go over well, and likewise, neither should slurs about someone's sexual orientation. It's all hate speech. ~Grand Admiral (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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"Mark Sandlin" <sandlin@nwlink.com> wrote in message news:sandlin-2012012...ink.com... (...) His (...) can (...) opinion (...) So you can justify punishing someone for an opinion? I wouldn't approve of any racial slur being used, but that doesn't (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think the language used in the Danish statement is a lot more, uh, blunt than you'd see in any US statement. I think the objection is to dealing *at all* with issues of overt sexuality--muddy, I know-- because of the minifig's largely (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What does a gay-minifig look like??? Saskia (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think there's a fine line here and IIRC the ToS is deliberately ambiguous on it. users are enjoined (by the discussion group terms) as follows: " 4. (do not) Post or transmit any unlawful, threatening, abusive, libelous, defamatory, obscene, (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Only for expressing the opinion, I think. (...) But then why do you support the mandate against profanity? I've assumed the goal of these rules is to make LUGNET a place where adults can do their thing and still be a place that parents are (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Except that being black or Jewish is not a sin. Homosexuality is. Any one that is Christian, Jewish, or Muslium must realize that. Leviticus Chapter 20 Verse 13: If a man lies with a man as he lies with a women, they have committed an (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What are you *saying*? You glibly quote the word of God and then immediately admit you go against it!? God has clearly commanded us all to kill homosexuals. To go against that command is far worse in my mind than the men who lie around with (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) it!? (...) LOL Ah what the heck I reply anyway. My point, which I guess I failed to get across, is that Homosexuality does not affect innocent lives. (Unlike rape,adultry, and murder.) It is therefore an act of evil that is between the (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're refering to the world according to Christianity, are you not? If so, I don't think your opinion above is quite true. According to Christianity, every child is born into sin. So, to live as a Jew without being baptized as a Christian (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:Gor26t.98p@lugnet.com... (...) So, do you advocate a 'speech code' system for LUGNET? Careful, read this first: (URL) suggested reading - anything by Larry Elder. Look at it this way. I (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Tim, I'm choping your note and reassembling because I think it's important... (...) I believe I detect a double standard in your rhetoric. Is it "pinning" something on you to identify the fault in your thinking? (...) For me, this isn't really about (...) (23 years ago, 23-Dec-01, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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="Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:Goszrp.H3J@lugnet.com... (...) important... Ok. (...) though. (...) I don't believe there's a fault in my thinking. I will definitely examine my thinking, but at this point I still (...) (23 years ago, 23-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) While the trend in campus speech codes is disturbing, I don't think universities need to allow complete free speech. Universities need to provide an environment for education. If a person (or group of people) is being abused by the speech of (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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