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Just a general thought: One problem we have in this whole discussion is that there are two separate (but related) issues on the table, which unfortuanately are currenlty tightly coupled. The first issue is Scott's mis-post. The second issue is how (...) (25 years ago, 18-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It isn't going to make me leave, although it does mean that sometimes I don't bother submitting ideas or problems.. which perhaps isn't a bad thing depending on the quality of my ideas ;-) (...) I'd like to help too, that's why I thought (...) (25 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Richard Franks wrote in message ... (...) don't (...) depending (...) want (...) that (...) Actually, there seems to be momentum for a panel, or at least Todd has started to agree it might be a good idea. Check out: (URL) and the replies to it. (...) (25 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) This has to come from Todd, we can't self organize this. Further I'm not sure groups are the right way to go, perhaps a mailing list? (25 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) (URL) This is from over 6 months ago - I think the seed of the idea came from Todd in the first place :) Of course, whether that means Todd thinks it is a good idea *now* or *later*, I'm not too sure.. (...) I have - in fact one of the four (...) (25 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think there are two main issues: 1) Is this a good time to start a LUGNET panel to deal with regulatory issues? I think that quite a few people think that it is - most importantly though - does Todd? My interpretation of the various hints (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Use something like onelist. The mails are available forever. (note, I said something LIKE onelist... actually Todd has the technology to do this, I think, without going outside his own sandbox) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <38AF34B1.B4C22D8F@v...er.net>... (...) if (...) might (...) some (...) I agree mailing list is the best way. Perhaps we should start tossing more concrete ideas of how decisions will be made, what kinds of things (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think you said it about right -- it's not wise IMHO to try to push people into thing, but rather to be available to help set things up when the time is right. (...) I tend to think that anything which can't be discussed openly in an open (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I don't have a strong opinion either way, as it will only directly effect panel members anyway - but is the move towards a mailing list a desire for privacy? I always thought that newsgroups gave better structure and reference abilities, so if (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Richard Franks wrote in message ... (...) panel (...) privacy? I (...) abilities, (...) when (...) be (...) powers? (...) means (...) takes (...) concensus (...) Well the idea of consensus is that you try and reach an agreement that everyone can (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I agree with the concept of concensus, but there isn't always a "right" way to go about something - there will be times when someone will never feel comfortable with a certain compromise. Rather than have a panel continually reiterate their (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Actually, thinking on - in the majority of occurances - would deliberation be necessary? If a panel member replies to a mis-placed one-off auction announcement, with a note saying "Please don't do this, etc, etc", and cc's or cross-posts this to the (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Agreed. But I think that one has been resolved, more or less, in that it appears that Todd has indicated that he would like for some sort of commitee to form. (...) Right. (...) Here, we disagree again. I think the T&C are perfectly valid as (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) On the other hand... I personally think the panel should present a united front. This is why I think that the idea of appeals is not such a good one. Once something is being talked about by "the panel", it's pretty clear the T&C have been (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I, as well, feel this is important. If you are saying something, then it should be visible. If not concurrent with the event, then soon there after. I believe the Federal Reserve does this for some decisions (Fed Funds rate, etc). They (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Valid, yes in that they are internally consistent. But broken in that they prevent things that are reasonable and necessary. (...) But I in fact said that cancellation DOES work and IS effective as a control technique. I then pointed out that (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <38B05490.B7C062B8@v...er.net>... (...) stand. I (...) in (...) slip-up) (...) indicate (...) Also at least partly broken in that they rely on Todd's interpretation that a "sealed bid auction" is not an auction (at (...) (25 years ago, 21-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Can you provide an example of something they prevent that is reasonable and necessary? (...) I didn't say you thought that they didn't work in any possible circumstance. I didn't say that *I* thought they didn't work in any possible (...) (25 years ago, 21-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.council)
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(...) It's an or-best-offer sale. On the internet, sure, there's little difference, but it is a valid sale type. (...) Umm, because it's in no way a sealed bid auction? EBay sends you updates telling you when someone outbids you, shows you a history (...) (25 years ago, 21-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <38B0CAA9.25214679@v...er.net>... (...) built (...) Sounds like several times what I have... You must be pushing close to a million pieces if you haven't exceeded that... (...) Nah, I'm the one who probably should (...) (25 years ago, 21-Feb-00, to lugnet.general)
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Lorbaat wrote in message ... (...) that (...) itself (...) difference, (...) auction (...) the (...) Well, if you bid, you generally get zero (if your offer wasn't good enough) or one update notice. Either an outbid notice or a "you won" notice. (...) (25 years ago, 22-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I personally think that SBA's are enough of an auction that they shouldn't be in .BST. However, I've sort-of come around to agreeing with Todd on allowing them there, for a couple of reasons. First being that there really isn't a sufficient (...) (25 years ago, 22-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ok ok ok wait wait stop. I *don't* think that SBA's should be allowed in .buy-sell-trade. What I've always been trying to say is that an SBA is mathematically equivalent to a plain old regular OBO sale. In other words, SBA's that are conducted (...) (25 years ago, 22-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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James Brown wrote in message ... (...) be (...) allowing (...) and (...) mostly (...) the (...) in (...) provide (...) I happen to agree. In fact, if OBO's become relegated to lugnet.market.auction, then the only things which would be acceptable (...) (25 years ago, 22-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Heh. That irony wasn't lost on me. :D eric (25 years ago, 23-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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