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Why is it OK to discuss things seen at trade-only toy fairs: (URL) not OK to disclose and discuss the contents of trade-only catalogues? Huw (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hear hear! Good to see someone keeping a weather eye on consistency ;-) Richard Parsons Still baldly going.... (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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I spotted this yesterday too. I'm not a trouble maker, so I did not metion it.... but now that the ball has started rolling, I'll help Huw push it. Scott A (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) In which direction? :-) I agree consistency is good. But are you arguing for removal of these posts, or loosening of the rules, or neither, just prompting a discussion of how best to move in the consistency direction? ++Lar (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Do these trade-only toy fairs allow press of any sort in? If so, then clearly disclosing stuff seen there is ok, so long as there is no contract violation (if you had to sign something to get into the fair, or to see the "secret" stuff at one (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) posts, or (...) to (...) Well. I know if I ever want the officail TLG line, I'll go to www.lego.com. If I want all the skinny{1} on what is really happening in the world of Lego, I look to LUGNet/RTL. I think HUW post came at the wrong time - (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Good point. The photographs look like it was OK to take them. (...) Any company printing dealer's catalogs should also expect them to enter the public domain sooner rather than later? Scott A (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Huw is in every right to post those trade only pictures, In which i did Lego can only touch you if you have the Logo's display I have made a note in the UK newsgroup, about the use of images and logos, go here (URL) reply on medwards@ukonline.co.uk (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Depends on the agreement that visitors signed. (...) That's sheer poppycock, in general. It is not how IP law works. Perhaps we can get one of the TWO Lugnetters who are IP lawyers to comment, but I just don't believe that what you've posted (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Certainly not, no[1]. The phrase "public domain" means "not copyrighted." --Todd [1] Well, maybe after 100 years or something like that. (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) the (...) For "public domain" read "public knowledge" (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well, certainly not "public domain" as Todd pointed out. Yes, they will eventually become public knowledge, but only through misuse by a dealer. TLC should probably put a statement at the front of the catalog indicating that it is NOT to be (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) But in this case, I certainly don't see photos of products there which haven't already been announced and publicized by TLC in year-2000 consumer catalogs (US & Germany)...do you? I suppose some of the new (to us) photos of those (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) active (...) (assuming (...) OK, I'll be devil's advocate this time. 1. What are the benefits of sacrificing even a little independence to get cosy with TLC? I'm sure they will listen to what we say just the same if we do not, they may even (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Why not? Toy fairs are all about publicity. The only reason toy companies participate in them is to get their product out. I doubt the author of From Bricks to Bothans was there as anything BUT the author of a website about toys (well, and a (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) "Generally speaking" => "In general" => "In the general case" Some of (perhaps much of) what's disclosed at toy fairs is done so behind curtains and closed doors and in obscure hotel rooms and under NDA's only under special provisions. Of (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Oh, I see. So you were saying in general it's not ok, but in this specifc case it is, because (IIRC) the info was taken from press kits. (...) And that's.... OK. Sorry, I couldn't resist. :D eric (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well, yah, I mean, just become some particular piece of information comes from a toy fair, the main purpose of which is to distribute information to the press and on to the public, doesn't necessarily mean that in general every single piece of (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:Fpq7u7.F5M@lugnet.com... (...) Thanks Todd, its now as clear as mud :-) I asked partly on behalf of a good friend of mine who went to a German toy fair and sent me, and others, a very large (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) My advice to him would be not to share any bits here which infringe upon TLC's rights. --Todd (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Did I miss something? I haven't seen a word from Brad or anyone else from LEGO since well before Christmas. If I have missed something and there is more definite info that has been posted about when and how LEGO will be taking a more active (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Nope, AFAIK, you haven't missed anything. But you did snip all the but the first word of my parenthetical disclaimer. :-. --Todd (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Wasn't interested in anything that followed "here", just didn't delete back to that point. I guess I was trying to find out if I had missed any new developments that would make it more obvious that LEGO WILL BE taking a more active role here, (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) My advice to him would be to share any bits on RTL. (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) You didn't ask me, but hey. MY advice would be to understand what is covered under Non Disclosure and make sure he has good lawyers if he publishes stuff that he's not supposed to, here OR on RTL. (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Huw Millington wrote in message ... (...) I know you didn't ask me, but you have a web site, a very nice one too. If *you* think it's ok to share the wealth then why not? Lego is quite capable of defending itself, and if you crossed their line, (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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